A house with scheduled ancient monument in the garden
Discussion
We have seen a house which the fits most of the criteria we are looking for.
Character
Needs modernising
Big garden / bit of land.
But this is part of the description.
A historic, mainly stone-built FARMHOUSE (2,185 sq ft) dating from the late 17th century with stone outbuildings, large cobbled yard and extensive gardens, which are a scheduled ancient monument, of about 1½ acres.
The gardens contain the site of a Roman fort and a medieval castle (from the 14th century approx.) and the house and outbuildings contain many interesting and historical features including icehouses.
GARDEN: The extensive garden lies mainly at the rear of the house and is a scheduled ancient monument on account of the sites of the former Roman fort and medieval castle, which have been investigated by archaeologists. There are many fine trees, including a 200-year-old mulberry tree, established shrubs, spring-flowering bulbs and lawns.
Will this lot = more trouble than it's worth. Would we be very restricted to what we can do with the garden?
I can see having to indulge some beardie tosser about what I can and can't do to the garden.
But trying to get the wife to see this is proving quiet hard.
Character
Needs modernising
Big garden / bit of land.
But this is part of the description.
A historic, mainly stone-built FARMHOUSE (2,185 sq ft) dating from the late 17th century with stone outbuildings, large cobbled yard and extensive gardens, which are a scheduled ancient monument, of about 1½ acres.
The gardens contain the site of a Roman fort and a medieval castle (from the 14th century approx.) and the house and outbuildings contain many interesting and historical features including icehouses.
GARDEN: The extensive garden lies mainly at the rear of the house and is a scheduled ancient monument on account of the sites of the former Roman fort and medieval castle, which have been investigated by archaeologists. There are many fine trees, including a 200-year-old mulberry tree, established shrubs, spring-flowering bulbs and lawns.
Will this lot = more trouble than it's worth. Would we be very restricted to what we can do with the garden?
I can see having to indulge some beardie tosser about what I can and can't do to the garden.
But trying to get the wife to see this is proving quiet hard.
Si 330 said:
Will this lot = more trouble than it's worth.
Yes, absolutely.There ain't a barge pole long enough.
If you think that dealing with your local authority Conservation Officer on a Listed house is a pain, just wait until you get a load of English Heritage. A bigger bunch of unrealistic, tweed-jacket-wearing beardy tossers (and that's just the women...) you'll never come across.
Last site I dealt with them on, the SAM was the remains of a fortified medieaval manor house... basically a rectangular ditch that used to form a moat. Before they were willing to allow any sort of planning-controlled work on the site, they wanted the moat fully restoring (ie excavating by archaeologists), re-planing, and a bridge building across so that sheep could be grazed on it to keep the vegetation under natural control. The catch to the last bit was that the site was pretty much in central Gloucester, landlocked by surrounding modern development, so said sheep would have to be trucked in on a regular basis and driven over the bridge to graze on the island.
When we baulked at the cost of the bridge, they suggested (in writing, and seriously) that perhaps we could consider some sort of inflatable bridge structure 'a bit like a bouncy castle'. Anyone who knows anything aboy sheep would have almost been tempted to take them up on the suggestion just for the comedy value of watching them trying to drive sheep across a glorified lilo...
Tossers, the lot of 'em.
According to this..........
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav...
"Only deliberately created structures, features and remains can be scheduled."
So I doubt if it applies to the planted stuff (assuming you don't have a man made maze). Maybe some trees have preservation orders though.
http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/server/show/nav...
"Only deliberately created structures, features and remains can be scheduled."
So I doubt if it applies to the planted stuff (assuming you don't have a man made maze). Maybe some trees have preservation orders though.
dickymint said:
"Only deliberately created structures, features and remains can be scheduled."
So I doubt if it applies to the planted stuff (assuming you don't have a man made maze). Maybe some trees have preservation orders though.
From the description, it would seem to apply to the remains of the former Roman fort and medieval castle that lie under the garden, so they will want to control any works which are likely to impact on the remains... which would include any excavations at all (budget for a couple of Archaeologists on a Watching Brief peering over your shoulder very time you want to dig the spuds up, if English Heritage get their way), planting of any new trees that cause root damage to the archaology, etc.So I doubt if it applies to the planted stuff (assuming you don't have a man made maze). Maybe some trees have preservation orders though.
Edited by Sam_68 on Sunday 16th May 13:49
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This one?
If you like the garden as it is... why not? Seems huge VFM for the price. If you want to play around with the garden a lot, put in a pool, courts etc.. no... leave well alone.
This one?
If you like the garden as it is... why not? Seems huge VFM for the price. If you want to play around with the garden a lot, put in a pool, courts etc.. no... leave well alone.
Yes that is the one.
Needs a few pounds spending but could potentially make a good family home.
As I know my 3 boys will love the out door space. Judging by the description the out buildings need immediate attention just to make safe. I need to see if any restrictions apply to theses buildings.
First and foremost found out exactly what falls with in this scheduled ancient monument and speak to english heritage.
If it is real hassle it may put people of and a very cheeky offer might work or we keep on searching.
Needs a few pounds spending but could potentially make a good family home.
As I know my 3 boys will love the out door space. Judging by the description the out buildings need immediate attention just to make safe. I need to see if any restrictions apply to theses buildings.
First and foremost found out exactly what falls with in this scheduled ancient monument and speak to english heritage.
If it is real hassle it may put people of and a very cheeky offer might work or we keep on searching.
Si 330 said:
First and foremost find out exactly what falls with in this scheduled ancient monument and speak to english heritage.
Bear in mind that English Heritage will present themselves as an eminently sensible and reasonable organisation who guide with the lightest of touches and only intervene where absolutley necessary.The reality, when you actually come to agreeing the nuts and bolts of a specific proposal, can suddenly become quite different... so take anything they say with a large dose of pessimistic salt.
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