Kahrs flooring
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theboyfold

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11,479 posts

256 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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Does anybody here have any knowledge of Kahrs flooring? We are trying to work out what type of floor we will put down in the kitchen and noticed Kahrs in John Lewis. It looks very nice, but I have zero knowledge of this type of flooring!

As a brand are they any good? Do they suffer from wear and tear as we are thinking of putting it into the living room as well. So it will have to deal with a dining table and couches etc etc...

Bonefish Blues

36,787 posts

253 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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Having had Kahrs engineered flooring I'll pitch in with strand woven bamboo as an alternative worth looking at (and significantly cheaper, too).

I had their narrow strip beech floor in my last house - excellent quality, but not a patch on the bamboo in terms of durability, albeit there are harder wood than beech in their range.

Just a thought.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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Had Kahrs oak before. Wonderful quality stuff and John Lewis layers are VERY professional and neat!

Wear and tear will depend on the wood type, Cherry for example will scratch like mad - next time it's a lovely Walnut for me.

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theboyfold

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256 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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We were looking at the Cornwall Oak, not sure on the cost yet. That might put the stops on the whole thing, especially as we need to have the floor sorted out before it goes in!

Do you have a link to the bamboo you are talking about?

Phooey

13,881 posts

199 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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Got solid downstairs and put this Kahrs engineered board in two of the bedrooms upstairs. Imo the Kahrs is not a patch on a proper solid floor - spend the extra and fit the proper stuff.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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Phooey said:
Got solid downstairs and put this Kahrs engineered board in two of the bedrooms upstairs. Imo the Kahrs is not a patch on a proper solid floor - spend the extra and fit the proper stuff.
I had underfloor heating so solid wood not a good idea.

theboyfold

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256 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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Phooey said:
Got solid downstairs and put this Kahrs engineered board in two of the bedrooms upstairs. Imo the Kahrs is not a patch on a proper solid floor - spend the extra and fit the proper stuff.
In what way is it not a patch on real wood?

Scotfox

582 posts

215 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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Have had Kahrs in the Dinning Room and Living Room for about 4 years now. Still looks good and it's taken a lot of abuse from my son and his friends with Toys etc getting bounced of it. Hasn't needed anything more than a damp mop over it to keep it looking good.

Bonefish Blues

36,787 posts

253 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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theboyfold said:
We were looking at the Cornwall Oak, not sure on the cost yet. That might put the stops on the whole thing, especially as we need to have the floor sorted out before it goes in!

Do you have a link to the bamboo you are talking about?
Take a look at www.simplybamboo.co.uk or www.bambooflooringcompany.com - there are a number of specialists around.

Phooey

13,881 posts

199 months

Tuesday 20th July 2010
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theboyfold said:
Phooey said:
Got solid downstairs and put this Kahrs engineered board in two of the bedrooms upstairs. Imo the Kahrs is not a patch on a proper solid floor - spend the extra and fit the proper stuff.
In what way is it not a patch on real wood?
Just doesn't seem to feel or look or age like a solid floor that has been finished on site. The Kahrs flooring upstairs, is a Oak 'strip' board, and the flooring downstairs is a solid 100mm plank. As daft as it sounds, the Kahrs floor still looks 'too new', almost like it is a 'laminate' floor instead of what it really is - wood veneer. The solid floor has heaps more character - shows wear better (in a good way), is solid underfoot (well it is heavier) and just looks like a *solid* wood floor should.

The solid will always look/wear better - and the difference in cost between the two is not as much as you would think.

I will also point out that the solid has been glued whereas the Kahrs is a floating floor. Gluing imo also gives that more solid feel than floating the floor.

This is obviously all imo, and from my personal experience.

theboyfold

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256 months

Thursday 16th December 2010
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Had a look at a real wood floor and as the Kahrs was an 'extravagance' we weren't willing to pay the extra for the real wood. However, the Kahrs has just gone in and I'm really happy with it smile Feels nice under foot, some how it's been feeling almost warm in this cold weather and it looks great.

Will wait and see how well it lasts.

m3jappa

6,950 posts

248 months

Friday 17th December 2010
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I think in most cases solid floors are cheaper than engineered. I would have got solid and glued it but wanted everything matching and as i have a large plastic box with glass stuck to the back of the house it was either the same engineered all the way through or solid inside and something else out there.

I also looked at kahrs stuff and imo it appears most floors regardless of manufacturer you get what you pay for, saying they are hardwearing it appears is more down to the actual wood itself, i.e walnut very soft, oak medium, ipe like stone.

The wear factor also depends on the laquer it has, some of the satin laquers i saw on various floors were seriously crap, so bad infact i could cause damage with a finger nail.

satans worm

2,466 posts

247 months

Friday 17th December 2010
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Phooey said:
theboyfold said:
Phooey said:
Got solid downstairs and put this Kahrs engineered board in two of the bedrooms upstairs. Imo the Kahrs is not a patch on a proper solid floor - spend the extra and fit the proper stuff.
In what way is it not a patch on real wood?
Just doesn't seem to feel or look or age like a solid floor that has been finished on site. The Kahrs flooring upstairs, is a Oak 'strip' board, and the flooring downstairs is a solid 100mm plank. As daft as it sounds, the Kahrs floor still looks 'too new', almost like it is a 'laminate' floor instead of what it really is - wood veneer. The solid floor has heaps more character - shows wear better (in a good way), is solid underfoot (well it is heavier) and just looks like a *solid* wood floor should.

The solid will always look/wear better - and the difference in cost between the two is not as much as you would think.

I will also point out that the solid has been glued whereas the Kahrs is a floating floor. Gluing imo also gives that more solid feel than floating the floor.

This is obviously all imo, and from my personal experience.
Just some thoughts

Is the finish on the real wood floor the same as the engineered?
Because if you have an oiled finish to the real wood and a varnished finished to the engineered that would explain why one still looks like new.

You can stick engineered to the floor too, so not sure why you decided to float upstairs? But either way you cant 'blame' that on the engineered.

You chose the narrow plank khars, but wider on the solid wood, so once again this is not a trait of engineered wood but your choice?

It is a fact that the woods will wear exactly the same if they have the same finish, in fact unless you have xray eyes and can see beyond the first 6-10mm of wood I really cannot see how you can tell the difference if both floors have the same style, finish and laid the same.

Finally, solid tends to be cheaper than engineered, the big advantage of engineered is that it is more stable and less prone to movement, a trait that is essential with under floor heating. However if you don't have underfloor heating then not alot of point in spending the extra cash.

And Phooey, I'm not trying to argue, just pointing out some different views as to balance why you felt solid is a better choice. smile

dave_s13

14,031 posts

299 months

Friday 17th December 2010
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A mate laid the whole of his ground floor in bamboo and it has shrunk terribly over a couple of years. Trouble being the shrinkage has been longitudunal so there are 5mm gaps showing between the plank ends - had to put a rug down in the living room!

To be fair though, it was the cheapest stuff you can get - £15/m.

We are ordering some Acacia on saturday. Had a look round last weekend and found it for around £45-50/m. Then had a look on Ebay and found a reasonably local place that does it for £32! Sent us a sample and I can't see where the extra £20/m comes from in the shops, it's just wood! We are off to his showroom for a look before ordering.