DIY UPVC Windows
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andy c said:
A little bird told me you may need submit an application for building regs approval to replace windows unless a registered window fitter.Not sure if its true.
you can fit yourself then get the council to do a fensa inspection i believe it goes up quite a lot next month .Edited by bimsb6 on Sunday 19th September 18:16
try u-fit.co.uk have used them to do 4 houses. they give you everything you need to do the job. prices are fine and they will haggle a little.
or just try a local double glazing firm to supply only.
never bothered with fensa or building regs. just make sure you do everything to building regs standard.
or just try a local double glazing firm to supply only.
never bothered with fensa or building regs. just make sure you do everything to building regs standard.
jas xjr said:
never bothered with fensa or building regs. just make sure you do everything to building regs standard.
I've got to agree with that view, any competent DIY-er will want to do the job properly simply because they don't want their house leaking or looking a mess. Just because you hire someone to do the job doesn't mean it's going to be done properly, just that you have a piece of paper which says it's done properly.IMO these latest regs have nothing to do with quality or safety but everything to do with red tape and taxation. DIY=VAT on materials only, but employ a tradesman and there's VAT on materials, labour and of course income tax from the employee from the job creation.
Edited by b2hbm because I just can't spil propaly on Monday 20th September 06:36
Edited by b2hbm on Monday 20th September 06:37
Of course the charge for the 'approval' is just a stealth tax - sometimes the BCO won't even visit! But you have to ask yourself if you want hassle when you try to sell you house, because these days surveyors and conveyancers are **** hot on this type of niggly thing. It is also a legal requirement, with a potential criminal record. Again, it doesn't matter what standard you do the work to versus a pro who are mostly pretty poor, the requirement is to notify and have it approved. And I am sure the average DIYer doesn't bother to look up regs. saftey glass zones, ventilation requirements for different types of rooms, means of escape (required opening window sizes), protection from falling - restrictors, reinforcement of frames where required, lintel inspection/replacement etc. etc. The window factory/supplier will just supply what you ask for, they don't care about suitability.
andy c said:
I will say, even though I brought up the subject of planning, I dont bother.Waste of money and never had a problem.If I sold a house, not sure if the solicitors would pick up on it. Tough if they do, any buyer would have to take it or leave it.
my sister sold a house on which i had replaced the windows . all the solictor did was was draw up some letter of indemnity which cost less than a £100. andy c said:
If I sold a house, not sure if the solicitors would pick up on it. Tough if they do, any buyer would have to take it or leave it.
Most solicitors will pick up on FENSA certificates, it seems very common on the forums, and my colleague is selling his house and the buyer's solicitor wanted the certificate for a door replaced recently. As you say, you can tell them to like it or lump it, if you don't mind losing the buyer.This whole regulation thing sucks.
If you feel like DIY, I say do it and sod the rules.
The whole government thing is about charging money for the benefit of paperwork. I agree with the person who said that "It doesn't ensure a high standard of workmanship - only a piece of paper to say so".
Sure, no-one will buy your house if you get it wrong.
Try it out on one window. If you find it easy, do the rest. If not get someone in to do it.
No-one is going to say when it was done, admit nothing, get on with life.
If you feel like DIY, I say do it and sod the rules.
The whole government thing is about charging money for the benefit of paperwork. I agree with the person who said that "It doesn't ensure a high standard of workmanship - only a piece of paper to say so".
Sure, no-one will buy your house if you get it wrong.
Try it out on one window. If you find it easy, do the rest. If not get someone in to do it.
No-one is going to say when it was done, admit nothing, get on with life.
"my sister sold a house on which i had replaced the windows . all the solictor did was was draw up some letter of indemnity which cost less than a £100."
How clever, BCO approval is less than £100!
"No-one is going to say when it was done, admit nothing, get on with life."
The glazing units are internally date stamped and that is what a buyer's surveyor looks for.
How clever, BCO approval is less than £100!
"No-one is going to say when it was done, admit nothing, get on with life."
The glazing units are internally date stamped and that is what a buyer's surveyor looks for.
Edited by Mr GrimNasty on Monday 20th September 20:44
Mr GrimNasty said:
"my sister sold a house on which i had replaced the windows . all the solictor did was was draw up some letter of indemnity which cost less than a £100."
How clever, BCO approval is less than £100!
So that's the substandard life tax?How clever, BCO approval is less than £100!
I mean, the window breaks, you can't afford to have someone do it for you. So you do it yourself, and eventually someone charges you for doing it yourself.
It's like every home should be a brand new Wimpey home.
I'd bet it's a right laugh when new the regulation meets the old building listings.
Bomb the government and get on with life, in a free happy anarchic world.
Personally I think it stinks that some Nazi fecker can hold resourceful, but poor people to ransom.
If you want to know why people in this fair nation don't try (in any way) then this is it.
Edited by dilbert on Monday 20th September 20:54
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