Velux Window in Bedroom
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JohnRS4

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269 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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We are in the process off adding an extension and I just wanted to check if anybody knew what the planning regulations were regarding having a velux window in a bedroom. The guy who drew up the plans says it is not allowed as it has to be a standard window to allow escape in case of a fire. Is this correct? Is there any way yopu can have just a velux window? If so what is the minimum height it has to b off the floor?

Si 330

1,306 posts

232 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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800mm

mrmaggit

10,146 posts

271 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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Standard GGL's are centre pivot and are not classed as fire escape, although as they rotate 180 degrees for cleaning I dare say you could exit the building by one.

Fire Escape are GPL, but some GHL are also suitable. Both GPL and GHL are top hung.

HTH

Busamav

2,954 posts

231 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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is this for a first floor bedroom and not a loft conversion ?

Simpo Two

91,361 posts

288 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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My mother's house (1987) has Velux windows in the bedrooms.

One thing you may not have considered is how noisy rain is in the night!

Condi

19,711 posts

194 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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Simpo Two said:
My mother's house (1987) has Velux windows in the bedrooms.

One thing you may not have considered is how noisy rain is in the night!
Its kinda nice though, to hear the rain outside and you being inside. Only not nice when you know you have to go out in it!

Place I lived in had Velux windows in a loft conversion - it was designed as a bedroom from the outset and only built in 2006 so unless the rules have changed I assume its fine. Had been passed off by council as it was a rented property so they had no issues with it either. You could easily get out, we went out the window a good few times to sit on the roof apex - as students do - and eat some lunch! You could also get down using the extension out the back, it was a hell of a lot safer than the other bedroom windows which only had a small opening at the top which you couldnt get in or out of.

rich0411

234 posts

203 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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You can have a top opening Velux (GPL) as long as you get a 78 x 118, 78 x 140 or 114 by 118 (centimetres), any of those are classed as means of escape.

Hope this helps

JohnRS4

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304 posts

269 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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It is for a 1st floor bedroom in a chalet style house. So if I conform to the sizes you have stated what is the maximum height I can have it off the floor. Thanks for all the input so far.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

193 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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The regs are constantly changing, you need to speak to building control (or wade through the appropriate approved documents). Last I heard Velux-type windows were no longer accepted as a means of escape, but that might have been 2 stories+, can't remember off-hand.

Busamav

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231 months

Thursday 21st October 2010
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JohnRS4 said:
what is the maximum height I can have it off the floor.
1100 above ffl.

JohnRS4

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269 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Thanks for that. Looks like that idea is out of the window as maximum height is too low for the roofline. Back to original plan!!

andye30m3

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277 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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There's often ways around it, the 1100 above FFL is for means of escape but depending on you current layout you may be able to add fire doors to all habitable rooms off of the existing hall / landing and have that as the fire escape.

Might be worth speaking to building control before moving away from what you want to build.

andy43

12,580 posts

277 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Confirm with BCO - the plans man may not be up to date with regs.
We used Colt Roto upvc windows as a cheaper alternative to Velux - they're hung at 1/3 height so the bigger sizes might be means of escape approved - you'd have to check. And no painting or staining required, although I think Velux themselves now do plastic windows too.

JohnRS4

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304 posts

269 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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Not quite sure I understand. Bedroom will be off upstairs landing shared by another bedroom and bathroom. Are you saying that if we fitted fire doors to all the bedrooms and bathroom on the 1st floor we wouldnt need a to have the velux in that bedroom below 1100?

andye30m3 said:
There's often ways around it, the 1100 above FFL is for means of escape but depending on you current layout you may be able to add fire doors to all habitable rooms off of the existing hall / landing and have that as the fire escape.

Might be worth speaking to building control before moving away from what you want to build.

C3BER

4,714 posts

246 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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as long as you have one escape window in the room you can have the normal velux windows.. I bloody hate the ones we have but we had no choice but put them in. A dam big glass box stuck on your roof is not as nice as a subtle flat one. And when you want to open one for fresh air it rains and you get wet. Oh the dam things are black and roll blinds are crap for them....i just bloody hate them.

andye30m3

3,496 posts

277 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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JohnRS4 said:
Not quite sure I understand. Bedroom will be off upstairs landing shared by another bedroom and bathroom. Are you saying that if we fitted fire doors to all the bedrooms and bathroom on the 1st floor we wouldnt need a to have the velux in that bedroom below 1100?

andye30m3 said:
There's often ways around it, the 1100 above FFL is for means of escape but depending on you current layout you may be able to add fire doors to all habitable rooms off of the existing hall / landing and have that as the fire escape.

Might be worth speaking to building control before moving away from what you want to build.
Basically in general fire escape from first floor rooms in a 2 story house is considered to be out of the windows.

By adding fire doors to all habitable rooms (no need to worry about bathroom) that open on to the first floor landing and the ground floor hallway you can create a fire protected stair well which will satisfy building control as an escape route.

It will depend on you ground floor layout as the above assumes that there is an external door in the ground floor hallway where the stair lands and it wouldn't work if the staircase is open to the living room or any other room.