Recommend a dishwasher
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thinfourth2

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32,414 posts

227 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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Our faithful seven year old bosch dishwasher has died.

Any brands that I should buy or avoid. Budget is a distinctly unpistonheads £400ish

Don't care about fancy features I just want a bloody dishwasher

GarryA

4,700 posts

187 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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Well if you have used your Bosch regularly for the past 7 years with no / little trouble I'd probably go for another one.

thinfourth2

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32,414 posts

227 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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Yep but if there is something even more reliable then i would go for that

I see there are some Neffs around that price range but they are all built in which is a bugger as i would need to get a door that matches the kitchen as the current is free standing

sparkythecat

8,064 posts

278 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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What's gone wrong with your dishwasher?
They are not really complicated machines and some fixes are easy-peasy

sploosh

822 posts

231 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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sparkythecat said:
What's gone wrong with your dishwasher?
They are not really complicated machines and some fixes are easy-peasy
Well worth having a google on common faults for that model.

if you're going to get rid anyway, worth having a go.


grumbledoak

32,381 posts

256 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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Get the basic Bosch. Rumour is that quality has dropped a little for German white goods, but it won't cost the earth and you should get five years out of it.

andy43

12,587 posts

277 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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Ours is good, but she does whinge sometimes.

m444ttb

3,177 posts

252 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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We have a Smeg dishwasher (built in full size machine) which is really good. I'll def buy another when it dies. My other half wants a Smeg fridge now. In pink...

lewes

361 posts

199 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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I would avoid Indesit. I had the misfortune to buy one about 3 years ago and it played up twice in the first 6 months.

I then took out the extended warranty (something I don't normally do) and they have been called out numerous times and in total it has cost them 720 in call outs.

Nothing major just silly things; blocked washer jets, wrong type of tablet (now have to use asda own brand as it doesn't like Finish or anything to good as it foams).

Recently bought a new washer and condensing dryer and wouldn't even look at Indesit because of this bad experience

psychoR1

1,105 posts

210 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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Fischer Paykel is pretty good - two drawer type.

Re Fridges had a Smeg retro job and got a refund after 8 months - absolute sh*te!

thepeoplespal

1,690 posts

300 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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m444ttb said:
We have a Smeg dishwasher (built in full size machine) which is really good. I'll def buy another when it dies. My other half wants a Smeg fridge now. In pink...
Had truly appalling customer service from SMEG dishwasher (which was good, especially the ability to folder dish holders flat)about 13 months after buying it, motor went, the cost to fix was the price of a dishwasher, SMEG gave no thought of helping with the cost.

It is not what a company does when things go right, it is what they do when it goes pear shaped, my experience of SMEG would suggest that when things go wrong they don't stand by their products. Got a cheapo Bosch now, lots of plastic in comparison to the SMEG, but does the job well enough.

Kermit power

29,622 posts

236 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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I'd definitely recommend you avoid Smeg.

The markings on ours might as well have been drawn on in crayon for their durability. Less than a year of a weekly wipe over with a damp cloth was enough to take most of them off.

One of the runners on the top drawer broke within a couple of years.

It has a habit of freezing part way through its cycle, and the only way to get it working again is to run it through a rinse cycle before restarting the whole thing from scratch again.

Lastly, even when it is all working properly, the top drawer is so poorly designed that mugs and glasses just all fall over when you slide the drawer in. irked

Having said all that, it's not as bloody unreliable as our oven, which is now on its third element in 5 years.

Anyone care to guess who made the sodding oven? hehe

-Pete-

2,914 posts

199 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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Good experience with Bosch for 10 years and more recently a Miele owner. The separate cutlery tray at the top is a mixed benefit, it's easier to sort things but if you put things in the tray below it doesn't get the cutlery clean. The quality is very good. I'd say Bosch Miele Neff will all be good, but repair your Bosch if you can.

danyeates

7,248 posts

245 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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We just bought a Siemens after looking at Miele and Bosch. It retailed at £550 but John Lewis had it up at £479 with £50 off when you trade in your old broken dishwasher, so £429.

However, I found a shop in Stoke offering the same dishwasher for £399 with the £50 trade in offer, so £349. John Lewis price matched them and even delivered it for free! Bargain! I'll find out the model and the link to the cheaper store so you can do a price match too if you like.

I'm really pleased with it. It was the most efficient model available on both electric and water. Only uses 10L of water and washes and dries everything perfectly. 42 db too I think so it's really quiet. You can barely hear it. It's essentially a rebranded Bosch but it has a 5 year warranty.

thinfourth2

Original Poster:

32,414 posts

227 months

Sunday 24th October 2010
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sparkythecat said:
What's gone wrong with your dishwasher?
They are not really complicated machines and some fixes are easy-peasy
Well two problems

Firstly it was seven years old

Secondly a diverter valve between the top and bottom washer bars had stuck so I attacked it with a power drill, sadly the pump doesn't have enough go to run both bars together. Also pulling off the bottom pump assembly looked like a smelling nightmare to get into the valve driving gubbins as it was a disc which had two holes in it to alternate the flow between top or bottom sprayers. Hence the drill attack.

Ended up buying a second hand Bosch classic so hopefully that should last a good while. As it is only two years old

dreamer75

1,426 posts

251 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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We had a Bosch for years and then replaced it with another Bosch when it finally bit the dust a couple of years ago. Never again!

The Bosch replacement was a joke - it was fairly high up in the range but it just didn't work. It didn't clean things properly (according to the engineer who visited about 5 times it's the new eco settings which don't use enough water), it chipped our cutlery (God knows how) and underperformed in various other ways.

Finally got it taken back by the seller and replaced it with an AEG (chosen for its quietness as we are open plan) which has been perfect smile

Shame because we also have an old Bosch fridge/freezer which needs replacing but will never touch Bosch white goods again frown

Meeja

8,290 posts

271 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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We inherited an ancient Bosch when we moved into our current house. The seller left a note on it that said it was faulty and he was leaving it for us (the cheek!) A logical engineering mind, common sense and parts for around £5 saw it working again. It ran and ran.

When it eventually did die five or six years later, we replaced it with another Bosch (why change from something you have found to be good?) - which has been garbage. Doesn't clean as well, is much noisier, and due to a poor design on the door, the catch broke after about 15 months, and now has to be wedged shut in order to prevent it leaking all over the kitchen floor.

I did look at replacing the top front cover so that the broken catch was replaced (it was part of the moulded plastic cover) but it was over £100 for the part - so we lived with wedging the door as a *short term fix* Roll on four years, and Mrs Meeja now wants rid and wants a new one.

Bosch definately not on the shopping list.... but this is, as it matches the fridge!



Doesn't review well (not that big inside, and tricky to load) and is pricey, but it is looking like SWMBO will win!

thinfourth2

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32,414 posts

227 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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dreamer75 said:
We had a Bosch for years and then replaced it with another Bosch when it finally bit the dust a couple of years ago. Never again!

The Bosch replacement was a joke - it was fairly high up in the range but it just didn't work. It didn't clean things properly (according to the engineer who visited about 5 times it's the new eco settings which don't use enough water)
heard that from many folk that bosch are what they were

Also looking at the spec sheets the top of the range ones use half the water that the cheapos do

I can't see how you get as much cack shifting power with half the water unless you have bonkers amounts of filtering

russ_a

4,706 posts

234 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Just brought a BOSCH Classic, reading a few reviews it seems that the newer models are all hit by Energy Rating Targets.

McSwerve II

317 posts

222 months

Monday 25th October 2010
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Bosch all the way.

NOT Rangemaster! Ever Ever Ever.