En Suite Bathroom Project.
Discussion
I am in the process of creating a larger ensuite bathroom by removing a wall between a current shower room and storage room. The dividing wall has now been removed. It was a recent (1980s 
) wall and the 2 rooms would originally have been one.
I would now like to enlarge the space more by moving the back wall into the roof space. The new back wall would be just in front of the purlin shown in the photos. The distance from the original back wall is about 100cm.
The first problem is that there are no floor joists in the new floor area. I realise that extra floor joists will be required, but how are these installed and is it straight forward for a professional to do it?
When the room was split into 2, a new doorway was created (doorway is to the right of the wc in above photo). The photo below shows this, and another purlin above it. The purlin stops at that doorway. As can be seen, this has obviously reduced the support for this purlin.
The previous owner seems to have got round this by using a long piece of angle iron fastened across the floor joists, with vertical members attaching to both purlins. This metal work is currently in the middle of the space and will have to be removed. Photos below show metalwork.
If the newer doorway is bricked back up, will this reinstate the support for the purlin and allow the metalwork to be removed?
Finally, which tradesman do I need to carry out this work? Builder or Roofer?
The aim is to end up with something like this..
Can anyone point out any flaws with this layout?
) wall and the 2 rooms would originally have been one. I would now like to enlarge the space more by moving the back wall into the roof space. The new back wall would be just in front of the purlin shown in the photos. The distance from the original back wall is about 100cm.
The first problem is that there are no floor joists in the new floor area. I realise that extra floor joists will be required, but how are these installed and is it straight forward for a professional to do it?
When the room was split into 2, a new doorway was created (doorway is to the right of the wc in above photo). The photo below shows this, and another purlin above it. The purlin stops at that doorway. As can be seen, this has obviously reduced the support for this purlin.
The previous owner seems to have got round this by using a long piece of angle iron fastened across the floor joists, with vertical members attaching to both purlins. This metal work is currently in the middle of the space and will have to be removed. Photos below show metalwork.
If the newer doorway is bricked back up, will this reinstate the support for the purlin and allow the metalwork to be removed?
Finally, which tradesman do I need to carry out this work? Builder or Roofer?
The aim is to end up with something like this..
Can anyone point out any flaws with this layout?
The design looks good although I have 2 questions which you probably have already thought of yourself
1: Is there ample space to get in & out of the bath comfortably without banging your head (especially older people - think about resale)?
2: I'm not on the dividing wall between toilet & bath - it reminds me of a public toilet cubicle and i imagine it would probably give the impression of a much smaller space. If you do definitely want a wall there have you thought about building one out of opaque glass blocks?
1: Is there ample space to get in & out of the bath comfortably without banging your head (especially older people - think about resale)?
2: I'm not on the dividing wall between toilet & bath - it reminds me of a public toilet cubicle and i imagine it would probably give the impression of a much smaller space. If you do definitely want a wall there have you thought about building one out of opaque glass blocks?
The ceiling height at the new back wall would be about 110cm and at the front edge of the bath about 180cm. I think (hope) this should be high enough to get into the bath.
The reason for the wall is two fold. I was told by a plumber mate that you should always try and hide the WC if enough space is present because it looks better. Also, I may have a small TV screen put in the wall if I can get one cheap from ebay. The room measures 400cm by 240cm so I'm hoping the wall won't make it feel claustrophobic.
If the TV goes I may look at some glass shelving like in this photo
http://www.georginagibsoninteriordesign.co.uk/inte...
The reason for the wall is two fold. I was told by a plumber mate that you should always try and hide the WC if enough space is present because it looks better. Also, I may have a small TV screen put in the wall if I can get one cheap from ebay. The room measures 400cm by 240cm so I'm hoping the wall won't make it feel claustrophobic.
If the TV goes I may look at some glass shelving like in this photo
http://www.georginagibsoninteriordesign.co.uk/inte...
Rollin said:
Structural engineer wants 500 for site visit and drawings plus 150 for each beam calculation. Are these prices normal?
We paid £1000 for a site visit. Design of pile foundations (9 piles) calcs for 6 beams and a couple of bits of toing and fro'ing with building control.No such thing as a cheap structural engineer really.
You'll need a foot of insulation behind your sloping roof so you may not have a much gain as you think. I expect most people expect to stand up in a bath rather than belly flop over the side and the floor of a bath is say 200mm above the floor so you need more headroom. That loft area looks useful only as a cupboard.
Rollin I like the layout- but for a room with full headroom throughout. Are you sure you have adequate headroom for the toilet where it is? You say there will be 180cm at the front of the bath so I suppose you will need to bring the pan into the room a fair bit
If you havent already done it, draw a scale side profile of the room to ensure that you have enough headroom to comfortably walk into the shower enclosure and to get out of the bath (as herewego as already pointed out belly flopping out of the bath isnt really ideal)
If you havent already done it, draw a scale side profile of the room to ensure that you have enough headroom to comfortably walk into the shower enclosure and to get out of the bath (as herewego as already pointed out belly flopping out of the bath isnt really ideal)
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