How to replace Central Heating controller
How to replace Central Heating controller
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james_tigerwoods

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16,344 posts

220 months

Sunday 7th November 2010
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Hopefully a quick one - We have a Baxi Solo boiler and an ACL LS241 controller - how difficult is it, or would it be, to replace the controller?

It's this one:



And is it expensive to do so (can I do it myself?) - Does anyone have a recommendation?

Cheers

JTW


Edited by james_tigerwoods on Monday 8th November 18:04

Simpo Two

91,401 posts

288 months

Sunday 7th November 2010
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james_tigerwoods said:
And is it expensive to do so (can I do it myself?)
No, and probably not. Bit of a minefield unless you know what you're doing. There are several different kinds of CH system and they're all wired up differently. I got stuck on mine but luckily knew the MD of a boiler company who came over and helped me figure it out!

james_tigerwoods

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Monday 8th November 2010
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Simpo Two said:
james_tigerwoods said:
And is it expensive to do so (can I do it myself?)
No, and probably not. Bit of a minefield unless you know what you're doing. There are several different kinds of CH system and they're all wired up differently. I got stuck on mine but luckily knew the MD of a boiler company who came over and helped me figure it out!
Oh right, thanks for the warning there smile

Globulator

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254 months

Monday 8th November 2010
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They all come with wiring diagrams - but finding which wire end up where is not so easy.
Even assuming a simple TRV (three way valve) system you end up having to learn how it works (i.e. the boiler + pump are controled by the TRV which is controlled by the controller, and don't forget the mysterious return wire from the tank stat!

I'd see if ACL do a better controller that just plugs in - many controllers have a plug/socket arrangement - so contact ACL and ask about upgrades.

james_tigerwoods

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Monday 8th November 2010
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Globulator said:
They all come with wiring diagrams - but finding which wire end up where is not so easy.
Even assuming a simple TRV (three way valve) system you end up having to learn how it works (i.e. the boiler + pump are controled by the TRV which is controlled by the controller, and don't forget the mysterious return wire from the tank stat!

I'd see if ACL do a better controller that just plugs in - many controllers have a plug/socket arrangement - so contact ACL and ask about upgrades.
I've just had a response from the manufacturer and the Drayton LP241 is a direct replacement - and is available from Screwfix for the Princely sum of £49.99 smile

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/86838/Plumbing/Centr...

Simpo Two

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Monday 8th November 2010
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Let the fun begin!



Edited by Simpo Two on Monday 8th November 11:17

james_tigerwoods

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Monday 8th November 2010
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Simpo Two said:
Let the fun begin!

No fear - I'll buy it (as the manufacturer state that it's a like for like replacement) and get someone in to fit it...

I'm no emsman!

(Although I did learn the hard way at the weekend why it is that you wear goggles when using an Angle Grinder - the bruise just above my eye is a testament to that...)

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

264 months

Monday 8th November 2010
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Heating controllers generally have a wired backplate which is mounted to the wall. Undo the fixing screw and remove the controller from the backplate. Then post a picture of the backplate/wires.

Ferg

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280 months

Monday 8th November 2010
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I wouldn't be surprised if they used the same backplate, to be honest.

Do you have a mid-position valve or two zone valves?

james_tigerwoods

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Monday 8th November 2010
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Ferg said:
Do you have a mid-position valve or two zone valves?
Say what now?

james_tigerwoods

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Monday 8th November 2010
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I've found this:

http://www.heatingcontrolsonline.co.uk/acl-drayton...

Which suggests that I can keep the same back plate - that suggests that I can pull the one I have and put the new one in place.

Ferg

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Monday 8th November 2010
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Nice reliable programmer, too.

james_tigerwoods

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Monday 8th November 2010
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Do these controllers have a back plate to which you simply slot the controller on top of then?

This seems absurdly simple - Also, if I am to provide a photo of the back plate, if I pull the controller off, will that kill my central heating?

Ferg

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280 months

Monday 8th November 2010
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If it is the same as the current ACL backplate you will see two small screws on the bottom edge about 60mm apart. Unscrew these until they are sticking out far enough to clear the bottom of the unit and it will hinge upwards until you can unhook it from two points on the top edge.

The backplate will have 6 terminals across the top with 'N' extreme left followed by 'L' and numbers 1 through 4.

Best to turn off the power first to be honest.

Edited by Ferg on Monday 8th November 18:51

Simpo Two

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Monday 8th November 2010
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Lamb... slaughter... hehe

ShadownINja

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305 months

Monday 8th November 2010
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You'll have to contact your CH controller manufacturer but my Danfoss was just a slide-off/replace jobbie. That said, I did have my plumber come in to do it; I'd rather pay him for 30 minutes' work than fk up the entire system by guessing/hoping and have to pay him for a day's work...

james_tigerwoods

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Monday 8th November 2010
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No fear - there's no way I'm doing this myself, but I do want to make sure that I'm not going to get done....

The manufacturer has stated that the LP241 will slot straight on top of the LS241 but I wanted to check with the PH collective intelligence first!

Ferg

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Monday 8th November 2010
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It's two screws, James, that's all.
No wiring, just undo, hinge up, clip new one on, hinge down, tighten screws.

ShadownINja

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Monday 8th November 2010
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james_tigerwoods said:
No fear - there's no way I'm doing this myself, but I do want to make sure that I'm not going to get done....

The manufacturer has stated that the LP241 will slot straight on top of the LS241 but I wanted to check with the PH collective intelligence first!
If you're not sure, email the manufacturer. I'm sure they'll happily advise.

james_tigerwoods

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Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Ferg said:
It's two screws, James, that's all.
No wiring, just undo, hinge up, clip new one on, hinge down, tighten screws.
The wiring: