Rubbish reduction
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jimmystratos

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2,347 posts

255 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Our council has just gone on to fortnightly collections, and we're struggling to keep the stuff in the bins. Without resorting to a bonfire, which is the current solution, how can I compact the rubbish? In the recycle stuff, plastic milk bottles for example are very bulky, and putting the rubbish in the wheelie bin loose without binliners is space-efficient but messy. What solutions have been found to work?

cal72

7,839 posts

193 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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I just bought one of these last week.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Plastic-Bottle-Crusher-and-D...

chimster

1,747 posts

232 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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cal72 said:
I just bought one of these last week.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Plastic-Bottle-Crusher-and-D...
Any good? Seems like a great idea to me. beer

motco

17,384 posts

269 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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If other people's experiences are anything to go by you'll need maggot crushers in the summer...

cal72

7,839 posts

193 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Perfect for the job.

3 screws to wall mount and is soild, just got to grease the runners and away you go.
Have mounted mine next to the back door so cans and cartons are crushed then dropped into the wheelie bin underneath.

Highly recommended. thumbup

GKP

15,099 posts

264 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Stop bringing stuff into your house just to throw it away in a few days.

Simplistic, I know, but there's sense in that there statement (and I'm not trying to be some controversial eco troll).

JonyPI

2,579 posts

212 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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I have never quite understood the problem with this to be honest, we had to change a number of years ago and yes we had problems to start with but then you do actualy think about what your throwing away and never have problems, infact depending on where you live you actualy end up with more bin space! and we are a family aswell not just a single occupant.

Laurel Green

31,019 posts

255 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Regarding plastic bottles; loosen the top, squeeze air out and, refasten top. Jobs a good'un.

Simpo Two

91,376 posts

288 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Buy more bins.

I think the fortnightly service is disgraceful; it's just a way they can save money and put it in their pension funds without passing on the savings.

AndyAudi

3,775 posts

245 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Laurel Green said:
Regarding plastic bottles; loosen the top, squeeze air out and, refasten top. Jobs a good'un.
& rinse them out, they stink after a week or so.

netherfield

3,069 posts

207 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Our council will supply as many recycling bins as you want,originally we were on monthly and had 3 bins,now on fortnightly and daughter has moved out we manage with the one,also helps having a big garden a lot of paper and cardboard go on the compost heap.

Trevelyan

729 posts

212 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Simpo Two said:
I think the fortnightly service is disgraceful; it's just a way they can save money and put it in their pension funds without passing on the savings.
This is the same opinion that many of my neighbours have had since we went to fortnightly collections and it's always baffled me a bit. Previously the wheely bin was collected every week. We were then given an extra wheely bin for recycling and they alternated bin collections, recycling one week, general the next. So basically the number of bin collections was exactly the same before and after! A few months later the council then implemented a seperate food waste collection on top which is collected every week. So even though we now get more total collections that we ever did before my neigbours still spend a lot of time muttering about reduced service to save money!
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I'm not saying that this is the same for every council though, I've got no doubt that many have cut overall services under the excuse of recycling.

Simpo Two

91,376 posts

288 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Trevelyan said:
I'm not saying that this is the same for every council though, I've got no doubt that many have cut overall services under the excuse of recycling.
My lot are actually very good; they turn up weekly and take anything. Then when 'recycling' got trendy they introduced another dustcart that follows behind the main one to collect waste paper... so that two trucks making carbons and two crews to pay for, when before there was just one.

jimmystratos

Original Poster:

2,347 posts

255 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Like the crusher cal72. think I'll get one.

Previously we had one recycle and one rubbish collection each week, now they're both fortnightly, so a halving of the service. The over-packaging of goods and food isn't helpful, if only the manufacturers would help by reducing it.

Hugo a Gogo

23,427 posts

256 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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what sort of limp-wristed grannies can't squash a plastic bottle then tighten the lid up to keep it small?

then pay 20 quid for a massive lump of pig-iron to bolt to their wall to save the quarter of a cubic inch space in the bin

jas xjr

11,309 posts

262 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Compost bin for food waste / paper cardboard. We also use paper to light the real fire. Where I live , Newcastle under Lyme , we have nine separate recycling bins. We never manage to fill our normal wheelie bin

captainzep

13,306 posts

215 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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jas xjr said:
Compost bin for food waste
This.

Our recycling just goes into clear bags on the pavement on collection day, so no capacity problems there, but with 2 kids its easy to fill the normal rubbish wheely-bin.

Composting makes a modest but noticeable difference over the 2 week cycle.

Also, one of those big heavy concrete weights from a washing machine acts as a useful compactor when you need to squeeze one more black sack in...

Mobile Chicane

21,821 posts

235 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Get a multi-fuel stove. You'd be amazed at what goes in this.

Pretty much everything other than food/garden waste (composter), and metal (recycling).

I don't bother expending energy to take stuff to the tip for someone else's benefit, when I can save the energy and reap the benefit myself in terms of *free heat*.

mk1fan

10,852 posts

248 months

Tuesday 9th November 2010
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Hugo a Gogo said:
what sort of limp-wristed grannies can't squash a plastic bottle then tighten the lid up to keep it small?

then pay 20 quid for a massive lump of pig-iron to bolt to their wall to save the quarter of a cubic inch space in the bin
Probably because they struggle to crush cans and tins.

To answer the OP. You'd be amazed how much 'air' most people put into their rubish. Just crush everything.

If you're in a house with a garden then get a wormery or start a compost heap.

StevieBee

14,861 posts

278 months

Wednesday 10th November 2010
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Trevelyan said:
So even though we now get more total collections that we ever did before my neigbours still spend a lot of time muttering about reduced service to save money!
Depending where you are in the country, disposal can cost up to £125 per tonne compared to £60 per tonne for diversion (recycling, composting, energy recovery, etc).

The average home produces a tonne of waste each year and average contribution from council tax to waste services (including litter picking, parks, etc.) is around £80 per home.

Recycling is driven by logistics and economics. The eco benefits are a handy by-product.

There's a bit confusion as to the difference between fortnightly (recycling collected weekly, waste every other week) and alternate week collections (recycling one week, waste the next), not helped by many councils themselves getting them mixed up. Both work on the premise that around 65% of household waste is recyclable, thus, provided (and that's the nub!) the council provides effective means for a householder to separate the recyclables, a weekly collection of waste is a waste of money as it's not needed.

Doesn't work for everyone but on the whole, is generally effective.

To the OP, as others have mentioned - get your council to provide more recycling containers!





Edited by StevieBee on Wednesday 10th November 13:42