Domestic heating oil (28 sec)

[Zip106]

Can those that use it post the price per litre they have recently paid, please? (for around 1200 ltrs)

Best I can get is 43.75 ppl + vat (Notts)

Would be interesting to see the difference around the country

Thanks.

[S6PNJ]

Hi, I paid 38.5ppl for 2000 litres back on Aug BH - Marlow/Henley on Thames area through Boiler Juice.

[Froggy porker]

Hmmmm - I just paid 57 ppl for 4000 litres so don't feel hard done by. But then I'm in France, so not very relevant to your survey...

[Zip106]

S6PNJ said:

Hi, I paid 38.5ppl for 2000 litres back on Aug BH - Marlow/Henley on Thames area through Boiler Juice.

Boiler Juice now quoting 46.7.

I notice from the graph on their website the price since August it has risen quite considerably.

[Busamav]

today paid 44.3 for 2000 litres ,

price is dropping so if you can hold for another few weeks it will improve

[Zip106]

I'd like to think I can hold for a few weeks, but the Watchman's blinking like mad! (I'll do a proper dip stick check tomorrow, though)

That, and the promised inclement weather ahead..

[eltawater]

47.80ppl +VAT for 500 litres, last tuesday, Bedfordshire.

[fatboy b]

41ppl for 1000 litres - but that was back in June.

[b2hbm]

One thing you could try to get a better price is see if any of your neighbours need any as well.

In our village everyone is either on oil or solid fuel heating and we have an "oil group". You ring one guy saying how much you want, how long you can wait and if there are any days when you can't take delivery. He bulks up with other village orders and then rings around the local suppliers for the best quote. They ring you, tell you the delivery date & take payment. The guy takes no charge, he just gets his oil cheaper the same as everyone else - ideal job if you're retired !

[Manks]

Zip106 said:

Can those that use it post the price per litre they have recently paid, please? (for around 1200 ltrs)

Best I can get is 43.75 ppl + vat (Notts)

Would be interesting to see the difference around the country

Thanks.

We have just got 43.5p for 6k litres.

[anonymous-user]

1000 litres @ 44.9ppl 2 weeks ago in Derbyshire.
Mike

[randlemarcus]

b2hbm said:

One thing you could try to get a better price is see if any of your neighbours need any as well.

In our village everyone is either on oil or solid fuel heating and we have an "oil group". You ring one guy saying how much you want, how long you can wait and if there are any days when you can't take delivery. He bulks up with other village orders and then rings around the local suppliers for the best quote. They ring you, tell you the delivery date & take payment. The guy takes no charge, he just gets his oil cheaper the same as everyone else - ideal job if you're retired !

Doesn't the VAT rate change over 2300 litres, or is everyone still charged at the 5% rate, its just a group order thing?

[RedLeicester]

39+vodka and tonic a month or so back. From a casual glance at the prices, as soon as the media started talking about hard winter, they began to creep up. If you need some, I suggest you get it now as it won't be getting any cheaper this side of spring.

Also worth negotiating on volume - we have a local group buy as well, but they have yet to beat prices we have got direct from suppliers anyway. Being able to order 2500l in one hit helps.

[onomatopoeia]

I managed to move to a house with mains gas before it was time for the heating to go on, so don't need to go through this palaver every year

Just thought I'd share that

[AndyAudi]

RedLeicester said:

Being able to order 2500l in one hit helps.

True but as mentioned above supplies >2300ltrs are billed +17.5% VAT
whereas <2300ltrs just 5% VAT.

Any order less than 1000ltrs is likely to attract a premium from the company selling it too as it is amazing how little margin is made on fuel. Company I used to work for averaged around £0.015/l gross margin on kerosene (Small Domestics were pushed up to around £0.025-£0.030/ltr).

[caiss4]

43.75p/l + VAT last week in Wiltshire.

For a 1000 litres!

Edited by caiss4 on Tuesday 23 November 15:43

[Manks]

onomatopoeia said:

I managed to move to a house with mains gas before it was time for the heating to go on, so don't need to go through this palaver every year

Every year? It's every 4 months for us, about 1000L a time and I am a tight bstard who wants to see icicles hanging from the noses of my children before the heating goes on.

[RedLeicester]

AndyAudi said:

RedLeicester said:

Being able to order 2500l in one hit helps.

True but as mentioned above supplies >2300ltrs are billed +17.5% VAT
whereas <2300ltrs just 5% VAT.

Is that a new thing? Our last bill was at 5%?

[RedLeicester]

Google said:

For Kerosene, home heating oil, the domestic VAT rate (for home users) is 5% and the commercial VAT rate (for businesses) is 17.5%. If you order over 2300 litres, the oil companies are obliged to charge you the commercial VAT rate unless you sign a declaration stating you are a domestic user.

Edited by RedLeicester on Tuesday 23 November 16:35

[AndyAudi]

RedLeicester said:

AndyAudi said:

RedLeicester said:

Being able to order 2500l in one hit helps.

True but as mentioned above supplies >2300ltrs are billed +17.5% VAT
whereas <2300ltrs just 5% VAT.

Is that a new thing? Our last bill was at 5%?

Nope been on the go for years, I used to think the rule was pretty clear cut but a quick check on HMRC's website does seem to state anyone below 2300ltrs assumed to be domestic, but that >2300 can still be domestic & therfore a qualifying use & you're supposed to tell your fuel supplier what you intend using it for these days.