When are you a first time buyer?
When are you a first time buyer?
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Marcellus

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7,193 posts

243 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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I haven't owned a house for about 5 years, if I were to buy now could I claim to be a 1st time buyer?

eltawater

3,423 posts

203 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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Think about it. If you'd not been laid for the same period, does that make you a virgin again? smile

Marcellus

Original Poster:

7,193 posts

243 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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eltawater said:
Think about it. If you'd not been laid for the same period, does that make you a virgin again? smile
Lovin the typical PH answer rofl

anonymous said:
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STR??

eltawater

3,423 posts

203 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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STR == Sold to rent.

And that's wrong.

See the first time buyer definition here:

http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/MoneyTaxAndBenefits/Ta...

Simpo Two

91,420 posts

289 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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Reality dictates that the fundamental advantage of a FTB is 'fully financed, no chain' - in other words you can complete and move in tomorrow.

Therefore as long as you have the loot you should be regarded as a FTB. Anything else is just political manouvering.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

194 months

Sunday 5th December 2010
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For the purposes of the additional stamp duty benefit - clearly you are NOT a FTB and you do not qualify.

Simpo Two

91,420 posts

289 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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The fact you can't have owned a house anywhere in the entire world seems pretty astonishing - and how would they know?

Could you become a Limited Company and buy it through that? The company and yourself are seperate legal entities and the Company has not owned a house before. Sounds like job for Eric!

Edited by Simpo Two on Monday 6th December 00:41

spikeyhead

19,747 posts

221 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Simpo Two said:
The fact you can't have owned a house anywhere in the entire world seems pretty astonishing - and how would they know?

Could you become a Limited Company and buy it through that? The company and yourself are seperate legal entities and the Company has not owned a house before. Sounds like job for Eric!

Edited by Simpo Two on Monday 6th December 00:41
I believe that you're then paying capital gains tax at business levels, and it comes without the exception for the first million as it's a property company. Unless the company is going to be employing staff it's not worth it.

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 6th December 08:19

youngsyr

14,742 posts

216 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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spikeyhead said:
Simpo Two said:
The fact you can't have owned a house anywhere in the entire world seems pretty astonishing - and how would they know?

Could you become a Limited Company and buy it through that? The company and yourself are seperate legal entities and the Company has not owned a house before. Sounds like job for Eric!

Edited by Simpo Two on Monday 6th December 00:41
I believe that you're then paying capital gains tax at business levels, and it comes without the exception for the first million as it's a property company. Unless the company is going to be employing staff it's not worth it.
There is no first time buyer relief for companies in any case, is there? I believe to qualify for the relief, the buyer has to live in the property? confused





Simpo Two

91,420 posts

289 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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youngsyr said:
I believe to qualify for the relief, the buyer has to live in the property? confused
Well a company director would be living in it, if that counts?

Buy yes, probably easier just to take the hit (as usual).

youngsyr

14,742 posts

216 months

Monday 6th December 2010
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Simpo Two said:
youngsyr said:
I believe to qualify for the relief, the buyer has to live in the property? confused
Well a company director would be living in it, if that counts?

Buy yes, probably easier just to take the hit (as usual).
It wouldn't count, a director is a separate taxable person and legal entity to the company (agent/principal), so I don't think there's an option here: as I read it companies don't qualify for the relief.

Edited by youngsyr on Monday 6th December 10:20