Fridge freezer frost free in garage not working grr
Fridge freezer frost free in garage not working grr
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Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

214 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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We have two fridge freezers in the garage one a Bosch and one a candy. Both are frost free Bosch is 5 years old the other is 18 months.

The Bosch has two temp settings one fridge the other freezer the other has one.

Just had to throw out all the food from both as the freezer has defrosted all the food.
The Bosch had a problem in the summer which I never repaired so probably just needs fixing then the whole thing will work.

But what about the candy? Reading online it appears that one thermostat and frost free doesn't work question is have we ruined it or if it was moved inside would it then start working?

Assuming both are ruined are there any models which will work as currently we have no freezer

Deva Link

26,934 posts

261 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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The single compressor / single controller fridge freezers won't generally work in unheated areas - they can give problems even in a cold part of the kitchen.

If the fridge doesn't demand cooling then the cmpressor won't run and the freezer will thaw out.

A work around is to put a low wattage light bulb in the fridge. The heat generated will keep the fridge busy and therefore the freezer will freeze.

oldcynic

2,166 posts

177 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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The Candy will be set up for room temperature - using one thermostat. So if the fridge is at the correct temperature, the compressor won't run, and the freezer will defrost.

Leave the fridge freezer in a room at around 5 degrees, the compressor will never need to run and your food is wasted. Warm the room up, the whole system will work again.

There should be specs available (see manual or internet) stating ambient operating temperatures.

You're best off buying a dedicated freezer in the January sales if you're planning to keep it in the garage, but check the specifications first - chest freezers seem to have the best range.

cpl_payne

576 posts

199 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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If the temperature in your garage is closer to outside temperature as opposed to room temperature that would explain why you're having problems.

Leicesterdave

2,288 posts

196 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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Putting a fridge in a very cold garage is asking for trouble imo.

Mastodon2

14,043 posts

181 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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And yet I've had a fridge/freezer in my garage for years which can regularly drop to freezing point and below and never had even a slight wobble from it...

Twincharged

1,851 posts

221 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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Mastodon2 said:
And yet I've had a fridge/freezer in my garage for years which can regularly drop to freezing point and below and never had even a slight wobble from it...
Some of them have two compressors and two controllers (generally older ones from before they went to singles as a cost-cutting measure).

Deva Link

26,934 posts

261 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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Mastodon2 said:
And yet I've had a fridge/freezer in my garage for years which can regularly drop to freezing point and below and never had even a slight wobble from it...
Wherever this subject arises someone (or several people) always pop up with the same experience as you. No idea why this happens - if it's cold then the fridge shouldn't be called on to work and therefore the freezer shouldn't work.

sawman

5,055 posts

246 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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You should get one of these canadian freezers they are very reliable for at least 6 months:


Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

214 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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Thanks guys.

So I should call Bosch out to repair the existing problem with it and it may well be fine.
The candy needs to be moved indoors realistically and then should start working again.

WOO5IE

951 posts

213 months

Monday 27th December 2010
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I purchased a new freezer a few months ago and they specifically told me that the warranty as invalid if left in a garage. I think the temp range it is designed to work at is 5 degrres or above.

I did put mine in the garage as its an integral one and never gets icy. Its beeen fine althogh I will have an issue if it fails

Pigeon

18,535 posts

262 months

Tuesday 28th December 2010
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Deva Link said:
The single compressor / single controller fridge freezers won't generally work in unheated areas - they can give problems even in a cold part of the kitchen.

If the fridge doesn't demand cooling then the cmpressor won't run and the freezer will thaw out.

A work around is to put a low wattage light bulb in the fridge. The heat generated will keep the fridge busy and therefore the freezer will freeze.
My mind boggles at how steamingly st that is.

lunchbox

623 posts

213 months

Tuesday 28th December 2010
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Twincharged said:
Mastodon2 said:
And yet I've had a fridge/freezer in my garage for years which can regularly drop to freezing point and below and never had even a slight wobble from it...
Some of them have two compressors and two controllers (generally older ones from before they went to singles as a cost-cutting measure).
This is what you want. I think they still do them (i've heard they have a single compressor and 2 controllers).

The 2 fridges in my student house quite frequently turned off when we were saving money by rarely using the central heating. There was actually quite a big argument about it as my housemate refused to believe it was 'too cold to cool things'.


Welshbeef

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49,633 posts

214 months

Tuesday 28th December 2010
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Bosch are booked to come out to fix it.
Thankfully will then be up and working.

They told me all their fridge freezers are strictly speced to operate in +10 degrees only. They said some people have them fail in larders within the house as they do not have them heated to above a certain temp.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

261 months

Tuesday 28th December 2010
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Pigeon said:
Deva Link said:
The single compressor / single controller fridge freezers won't generally work in unheated areas - they can give problems even in a cold part of the kitchen.

If the fridge doesn't demand cooling then the cmpressor won't run and the freezer will thaw out.

A work around is to put a low wattage light bulb in the fridge. The heat generated will keep the fridge busy and therefore the freezer will freeze.
My mind boggles at how steamingly st that is.
Some Bosch fridge freezers have a "winter" switch next to the fridge interior lamp which allows it to remain on at partial brightness so the unit will work OK when it's in a cold area.

netherfield

2,900 posts

200 months

Tuesday 28th December 2010
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Had the same problem 3 years ago,Bosch came out and replaced the flap between the two compartments,did no good whatsoever,then another man came out to it and said it would never work in the garage and that the first guy was a twonk and should have known better.

Solved the problem though,my daughter moved out and took it with her,and with her gone we didn't need it anymore.

Jonny_

4,526 posts

223 months

Tuesday 28th December 2010
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This explains a lot, I recently moved my bag-o'-effin-s**te Beko fridge-freezer from the main kitchen into a nice neat little pantry area, far from any radiators, and found that it hardly ever runs and that stuff isn't as solidly frozen as it was.

I've taken to leaving the fridge door open for a few mins whenever I get anything out of it.

If it carries on I'll rig a timer into the compressor circuit, bypassing the temp sensor entirely and making sure it runs the comp for a few hours a day.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

261 months

Wednesday 29th December 2010
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Jonny_ said:
This explains a lot, I recently moved my bag-o'-effin-s**te Beko fridge-freezer from the main kitchen into a nice neat little pantry area, far from any radiators, and found that it hardly ever runs and that stuff isn't as solidly frozen as it was.

I've taken to leaving the fridge door open for a few mins whenever I get anything out of it.

If it carries on I'll rig a timer into the compressor circuit, bypassing the temp sensor entirely and making sure it runs the comp for a few hours a day.
My daughter just bought a house with Beko unit in a similar position to you decribe and that only freezes randomly. No way it should be too cold where it is. The general consensus on the internet is that Beko are just crap.

Simpo Two

89,226 posts

281 months

Wednesday 29th December 2010
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Somewhere in the instructions it probably gives max and min operating temps...