Paying a Year's Rent Upfront ?
Paying a Year's Rent Upfront ?
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chrisdk

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113 posts

188 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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Currently looking at flats in London and have seen a place advertised with an agent stating that the owner requires full 12 month payment up-front, in exchange it appears that the price is much lower (~30%) than similar properties in the area.

This seems too good to be true but I figure that the owner is desperately trying to free up some cash to avoid repossession of other properties and is prepared to take a hit on this one (just a hunch).

Does this all seem too good to be true ?

I assume if I'm using a reputable agent and have a decent contract drawn-up then the risk is pretty low ?

Or is it likely that any repairs required during this 12 month period will not be made until I draft a solicitors letter threatening breach of contract ?

Opinions welcome, thanks in advance.

Chris

Fatboy

8,257 posts

296 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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Only risk I'd have thought is that reputable agent or not, if the Landlord's Bank repossess the flat, you stand to lose the balance of whatever's left of the year's rent as well as losing your flat, rather than just the balance of a month's rent...

Although I seem to remember someone on here saying that there was a change in the law going through to protect tenants in these situations, but can't remember any more than that, sorry...

neilsie

952 posts

270 months

Sunday 2nd January 2011
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repairs should be carried out regardless of your payment options - as defined in your contract.

some tenants offer money up front as it may put them in favour of others who can only pay monthly.

just ensure you have an AST to match the period of payment.

if it bothers you, negotiate for payment of rent for a 6month period only.

Andy_GSA

518 posts

206 months

Monday 3rd January 2011
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Fatboy said:
Only risk I'd have thought is that reputable agent or not, if the Landlord's Bank repossess the flat, you stand to lose the balance of whatever's left of the year's rent as well as losing your flat, rather than just the balance of a month's rent...

Although I seem to remember someone on here saying that there was a change in the law going through to protect tenants in these situations, but can't remember any more than that, sorry...
That would give the OP up to 2 months protection from eviction if the bank obtained a possession order, but wouldn't facilitate the refund of any rent paid to the landlord after those 2 months.


jimmyjam

2,435 posts

243 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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Its not unusual for a years rent to be paid in exchange for a lower rate but not so usual for it to be openly advertised. Seems a little desperate and that always rings bells, espaecially in current climate.
Very important to see sight of the mortgagees consent to let which a good agent should provide anyway. I would also ask to see confirmation from the mortgagee that there are no arrears.

Soovy

35,829 posts

295 months

Tuesday 4th January 2011
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How interested do you think the landlord will be in you once they've got all the money?

Don't be STUPID.

Swoxy

2,842 posts

234 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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What if he becomes a bankrupt?

Edited by Swoxy on Thursday 6th January 12:56

Muncher

12,235 posts

273 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Soovy said:
How interested do you think the landlord will be in you once they've got all the money?

Don't be STUPID.
Didn't you mention before that you got a great deal on your flat by paying upfront?

bigandclever

14,223 posts

262 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Muncher said:
Soovy said:
How interested do you think the landlord will be in you once they've got all the money?

Don't be STUPID.
Didn't you mention before that you got a great deal on your flat by paying upfront?
I remember that too.

Wings

5,935 posts

239 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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Soovy said:
How interested do you think the landlord will be in you once they've got all the money?

Don't be STUPID.
+1 Agree, mortgage repossession gives OP/tenant just 2 months protection, so unless OP has bright lamp of hindsight, then do not pay 12 months rent upfront.

Fatboy

8,257 posts

296 months

Thursday 6th January 2011
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bigandclever said:
Muncher said:
Soovy said:
How interested do you think the landlord will be in you once they've got all the money?

Don't be STUPID.
Didn't you mention before that you got a great deal on your flat by paying upfront?
I remember that too.
I don't remember Soovy saying he wasn't stupid smile

okgo

41,570 posts

222 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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bigandclever said:
Muncher said:
Soovy said:
How interested do you think the landlord will be in you once they've got all the money?

Don't be STUPID.
Didn't you mention before that you got a great deal on your flat by paying upfront?
I remember that too.
hehe I remember that.

chrisdk

Original Poster:

113 posts

188 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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OP here.

Thanks for the comments, I have not pursued the flat (for a whole host of other reasons) but it's interesting to note that I was completely unaware of the implications of a landlord falling into arrears resulting in a repossession.

I'm wondering if this is something an agent would mention to a prospective tenant ?

Soovy

35,829 posts

295 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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okgo said:
bigandclever said:
Muncher said:
Soovy said:
How interested do you think the landlord will be in you once they've got all the money?

Don't be STUPID.
Didn't you mention before that you got a great deal on your flat by paying upfront?
I remember that too.
hehe I remember that.
hehe

I did, but I went into it with my eyes WIDE open - and I know the owner and have done for 20 years.

I wouldn't advise it unless you get, say, 50% off, and you know the owner.