Painting a garage - easy?
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Almost finished building my garage, built from concrete blocks, whats the easiest/best way to paint it, internally and externally - brush/roller/spray, I have all 3 so would like the quickest and most durable?
I was thinking of cheap emulsion intside and sandtex or similar outside. or can anyone recommend alternatives, colour isn't important except I'd like a light colour inside.
Several people have mentioned that emulsion won't adhere to concrete blocks
Anybody done it with good results, and if so how? and anyone have any tips
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TA
Mal
I was thinking of cheap emulsion intside and sandtex or similar outside. or can anyone recommend alternatives, colour isn't important except I'd like a light colour inside.
Several people have mentioned that emulsion won't adhere to concrete blocks
Anybody done it with good results, and if so how? and anyone have any tips:TA
Mal
Ive only poainted the inside of ours, and used Wickes 'rough' masonary paint - white. this wasnt on a new build so the bricks and mortor were far from perfect but it looks much better than before and brighter.
I used a a 4" masonary brush for the lot, as the mortor joiints are slighlty recessed between the bricks so a roller woulnt have covered and using a brush allowed me to get plenty of paint inbetween as in a few places the mortor was very sandy.
I used a a 4" masonary brush for the lot, as the mortor joiints are slighlty recessed between the bricks so a roller woulnt have covered and using a brush allowed me to get plenty of paint inbetween as in a few places the mortor was very sandy.
By far the most effective and economical is to spray, but is also fairly expensive to hire http://www.brandontoolhire.co.uk/directory/prodVie...
Second choice would be roller (must be thick pile), takes longer, uses considerably more paint and wont cover as effictivly as a sprayer.
If it were me, no brainer, spray for far superior finish.
Second choice would be roller (must be thick pile), takes longer, uses considerably more paint and wont cover as effictivly as a sprayer.
If it were me, no brainer, spray for far superior finish.
Edited by Spudler on Monday 3rd January 19:36
S47 said:
Almost finished building my garage, built from concrete blocks, whats the easiest/best way to paint it, internally and externally - brush/roller/spray, I have all 3 so would like the quickest and most durable?
I was thinking of cheap emulsion intside and sandtex or similar outside. or can anyone recommend alternatives, colour isn't important except I'd like a light colour inside.
Several people have mentioned that emulsion won't adhere to concrete blocks Anybody done it with good results, and if so how? and anyone have any tips:
TA
Mal
Have you installed a damp proof membrane in the concrete floor?I was thinking of cheap emulsion intside and sandtex or similar outside. or can anyone recommend alternatives, colour isn't important except I'd like a light colour inside.
Several people have mentioned that emulsion won't adhere to concrete blocks
Anybody done it with good results, and if so how? and anyone have any tips:TA
Mal
Have you a dpc level in the foot/base blocks and up to 1st coarse blockwork at least?
Is the roof lined with roofing felt or non drip cladding that wont allow moisture to accumulate.
If no to all of these,then you NEED to apply the likes of Thompsons Waterproof/damp seal to both the exterior and interior of your block garage.Apply 2 coats of the stuff.Leave to dry into the blockwork for 24-48 hours.
Then you can paint away.
If you have rough cast plaster/dashed finishthen you use a DEEP PILE Stipple brush specificly made for exterior masonary painting
Leave that to dry in.
Thats what i did,and have no damp problems at all in my new built garage.I also used Daltex Ultra breathable roof membrane underneath non drip tile effect roof cladding,just to have piece of mind with regards to condensation matters.
Also,if you can get water and power to the garage and bury the pipes at least 750mm deep down away from the frost line in the ground,they will be kept away from garden shovels and also the earth will insulate them too,especially in this freezing weather.Make sure you use SWA cable for running power to the garage,and also use steel conduit and steel/metal boxes for sockets and use an IP Rated fuseboard too.
Edited by sp2 on Monday 3rd January 20:33
Edited by sp2 on Monday 3rd January 20:39
Stu R said:
Sandtex masonry paint and a masonry brush.
Sprays are decent but expensive, rollers are garbage. I did our double garage with a couple of pots of sandtex (used about 1.5) and did the floor with some cheapo grip paint from screwfix - did the lot in a day.
+1 to the Sandtex.Sprays are decent but expensive, rollers are garbage. I did our double garage with a couple of pots of sandtex (used about 1.5) and did the floor with some cheapo grip paint from screwfix - did the lot in a day.
Or else Dulux WeatherShield.
Brilliant stuff
Spray it with diluted masonry paint. I painted my garage recently and brushes would have taken me weeks, rollers didn't work at all due to the roughness of the breeze block surfaces and spraying was much easier.
Bought the spray gun from here for £15:
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/13389/Power-Tools/Sp...
Bought the spray gun from here for £15:
http://www.screwfix.com/prods/13389/Power-Tools/Sp...
youngsyr said:
Given I have a 6m x 5m garage, and a two storey house to paint both internally and externally, would this be the fella for me? I'd imagine lots of masking inside and around windows for the external render, but other than that I think this may save me hours. youngsyr, you are a gentleman.
MuffDaddy said:
youngsyr said:
Given I have a 6m x 5m garage, and a two storey house to paint both internally and externally, would this be the fella for me? I'd imagine lots of masking inside and around windows for the external render, but other than that I think this may save me hours. youngsyr, you are a gentleman.
If I were painting a larger area I'd look at investing more in the sprayer, but for £15 it was a no brainer for me.
You will need to do lots of masking, covering pretty much everything as the paint does go everywhere, including putting a fine mist in the air (wear a mask!).
You do need to water down the paint for it though, regardless of what it says on the paint tin. I found 50/50 paint/water worked well through it, although it meant it needed two coats on bare masonry.
Edited by youngsyr on Tuesday 4th January 15:11
Nightmare.....you guys make it sound so easy!
From previous write ups, I too had visions of an easy afternoon's work and a satisfying (and quick) result. So I went out and bought a HVLP electric sprayer (one with a larger remote reservoir). By the time I got my paint to a consistency where it would spray from the remote container, it was almost water and merely left a white mist on the walls. It certainly would have taken more than 2 coats. I then tried the pot that was attached to the spray gun and it was not much better. There was then the fun in transferring diluted paint from one pot to another, not to mention that the spray time was then reduced to a couple of minutes (and about 2sqm per pot). On the good side, the paint was so diluted that it was easy to clean out. In the end I gave up and used a brush.
I still have no idea what I did wrong and might need to have another go.
From previous write ups, I too had visions of an easy afternoon's work and a satisfying (and quick) result. So I went out and bought a HVLP electric sprayer (one with a larger remote reservoir). By the time I got my paint to a consistency where it would spray from the remote container, it was almost water and merely left a white mist on the walls. It certainly would have taken more than 2 coats. I then tried the pot that was attached to the spray gun and it was not much better. There was then the fun in transferring diluted paint from one pot to another, not to mention that the spray time was then reduced to a couple of minutes (and about 2sqm per pot). On the good side, the paint was so diluted that it was easy to clean out. In the end I gave up and used a brush.
I still have no idea what I did wrong and might need to have another go.
With the sprayer I used I just made up a fresh batch of paint every few minutes - half a reservoir of paint, topped up with water from a 5L plastic can. Quick stir and you're off again.
You do get through a lot of paint though, had to go back to the shop and get some more and then ran out of that too!
Spraying consistency wasn't too bad at all at that rate - two coats was fine.
If you have a flat surface though, defintely use a roller. My walls resembled the Devil's Golf Course though...
You do get through a lot of paint though, had to go back to the shop and get some more and then ran out of that too!
Spraying consistency wasn't too bad at all at that rate - two coats was fine.
If you have a flat surface though, defintely use a roller. My walls resembled the Devil's Golf Course though...
I gave my garage a lick of paint last year, and had no idea where to start. The PH massive came to the rescue though, and there are some good tips which I tried out.
See here for thread
See here for thread
S47 said:
Awesome replies guys, I thought Spraying was the way to go
SOmeone mentioned thinning out the internal emulsion 50/50 with water for the first coat anyone done this??
Thx
Mal
If you use a sprayer, you will have to thin the paint. As for thinning it on the first coat for using a roller or brush, I wouldn't bother whether you're painting on rough or smooth if you're using masonary paint, but then I'm far from an expert.SOmeone mentioned thinning out the internal emulsion 50/50 with water for the first coat
anyone done this??Thx
Mal
My garage is 6x5.5x3metre in size so spraying will complete the job rather quickly
I plan to use a 5litre remote pressure feed paint pot, I've used this to spray cellulose[on cars] and varnish[on pine furniture] with great success. I suspect the emulsion will need thinning to spray properly though.
What about Sandtex or Weathershield paint which is bloody thick and has grit in it, anyone sprayed these paints. and did you need to thin them
THX
Mal
I plan to use a 5litre remote pressure feed paint pot, I've used this to spray cellulose[on cars] and varnish[on pine furniture] with great success. I suspect the emulsion will need thinning to spray properly though.
What about Sandtex or Weathershield paint which is bloody thick and has grit in it, anyone sprayed these paints. and did you need to thin them
THX
Mal
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