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Cogcog

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11,838 posts

259 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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I have just received the planning docs for a house I was looking at which included outbuildings for conversion. There was a letter from the council about horseshoe bats in 2 parts of the site, including one site which is actually rented out as a bat nursery to a local bat group. They have a limted licence to disturb the roosts but it looks like the one nursey barn cannot be touched at all and that another can only be touched when the bats are not breeding, and that they have to be left or moved by a qualified bat handler ( I think to be reinstalled in the protected roof space after the work is complete). So,


Anybody have experience of working around bat colonies?

I like the idea of having the bats as there is plenty of space for them, but it strikes me that this PITA is worth some discount for having to wait until the nursey empties (with quite a tight eadline on the 5 year limiot for the planning permision), and then work in tight timescales and pay batman to remove, house and return them? The council warn it could take 12 months to wait for the right times and get the permissions, and the PP only has about 15 months to run although I guess they would be sympathetic to a renewal.

Edited by Cogcog on Friday 7th January 09:12

Cogcog

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259 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Bats and their roosts are protected by law. As bats tend to return to the same roosts every year, the roosts are protected whether bats are present or not. Thus it is illegal to kill, injure or take a wild bat, or intentionally or recklessly damage, destroy or obstruct access to a bat roost. Having bats in your roof does not mean building work, repairs or timber treatment cannot take place but you will need to contact the local Statutory Nature Conservation Organisation (SNCO) for their advice before you proceed, and then follow this advice which is free of charge.



herbialfa

1,489 posts

226 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Irrespective of the bats as long as you have Building Control out to do their first inspection of the works started then your 5 year timescale is gone.

I.E. after that inspection you can take as long as you like.

One less thing to worry about eh?

Busamav

2,954 posts

232 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Real problem , I have one project that the roof works are now delayed untill October , £3k so far on surveys and reports etc.

We now know the frequency the bats enter and leave the roof, these surveys are carried out early hours and sunset .

skeggysteve

5,724 posts

241 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Not much help to the OP but when we had a heating redone a few years ago we were told that if we had bats in the loft it would be a big problem.

Distubing then is illegal and the fine is £1000 per bat yikes

Simpo Two

91,519 posts

289 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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skeggysteve said:
Distubing then is illegal and the fine is £1000 per bat yikes
Best dispose of the bodies then!

'No bats round here mate' (shuffles awkwardly to left)

SwanJack

1,951 posts

296 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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In the early 70's my parents had bats in their roofspace. As this was before protection, the local builder smoked them out using sulphur candles. Myself and a few friends counted them all leaving, there were about 100. Saddens me looking back at it. Not sure how sad my mother was at the time though, as she had been bitten by one that was asleep in her dressing gown, could have been pretty nasty as they can carry rabies.

Edited by SwanJack on Friday 7th January 15:34

Cogcog

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259 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Bat Society say chances of a human catching the bat variety of rabies is 'miniscule' although qualified 'bat handlers' have to be have had the injections.

Seems you have to wait until they have all gone to semi-hibernate in the winter (which is often miles from the rost which is a summer haunt), do the work but leave their nesting sites in tact.

One room ( approx 6 x 4 meters which I guess is the nursery) cannot be touched at all!

Simpo Two

91,519 posts

289 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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SwanJack said:
could have been pretty nasty as they can carry rabies.
Only in foreign lands. Dogs can carry rabies too but we have lots of those...



AFAIK we still don't have rabies, depsite the influx of undesirables.

Busamav

2,954 posts

232 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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You basically have to avoid the relevant works May to September inc.

andy43

12,616 posts

278 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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We've got bats - great to watch them in the early evening - amazing creatures.
Their ability to change direction mid-flight avoiding the bloody spade every time is awesome.

Lord Flathead

1,288 posts

203 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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That made me laugh

iamrcb

607 posts

220 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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what did bats do before houses? I though their species were from well before we had loft spaces? Animals adapt....

sploosh

822 posts

232 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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found a very dead bat stuck to the radiator of my car

no i didn't, wasn't me..


Simpo Two

91,519 posts

289 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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iamrcb said:
what did bats do before houses? I though their species were from well before we had loft spaces? Animals adapt....
They may have nested in the forests which once covered this land but are now all cut down.

thesyn

540 posts

205 months

Friday 7th January 2011
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Simpo Two said:
SwanJack said:
could have been pretty nasty as they can carry rabies.
Only in foreign lands. Dogs can carry rabies too but we have lots of those...



AFAIK we still don't have rabies, depsite the influx of undesirables.
Oh but we do!

Check it out