Re-Wire costs?
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just looking at a potential house purchase - 50's built and the interior switches look like they have not been changed (bakerlite brown plasticy).
Can anyone with recent experience give an idea as to the costs of a re-wire of 'normal' 3 bed house
I guess its the remedial plastering & decorating that costs most - but as we'd likely be doing that anyway it would seem foolish not to re-wire.
As a partial asside - i'd always vowed that my next house would be cat5/6 whateverd up to the eyeballs artfer my ballaching effors to sort this in the current place - but is wireless getting to the stage where a physical home network is less useful?
just really interested in any points of view...
cheers all
Bergs
Here are some random pic that may give an idea as to the age of the existing for the trained eye:
Can anyone with recent experience give an idea as to the costs of a re-wire of 'normal' 3 bed house
I guess its the remedial plastering & decorating that costs most - but as we'd likely be doing that anyway it would seem foolish not to re-wire.
As a partial asside - i'd always vowed that my next house would be cat5/6 whateverd up to the eyeballs artfer my ballaching effors to sort this in the current place - but is wireless getting to the stage where a physical home network is less useful?
just really interested in any points of view...
cheers all
Bergs
Here are some random pic that may give an idea as to the age of the existing for the trained eye:
I had similar situation in my 3 bed house in Bromley about 5-6 years ago. Went to town and put each room on a separate circuit in the rewire. Additional plug sockets etc. Cost about 6K including the plastering (had to skim some entire walls in the end)
Edited by mattdaniels on Sunday 23 January 19:50
All depends how far you want to go...
Currently refurbing a late 50's property myself, thankfully brother is an electrician but sourcing materials myself and have been given an indication of labour cost (for my information)...
Materials are around £700 - 750 (down lighters kitchen & bathroom, plenty of sockets here there and everywhere, wiring & sockets for the garage but nothing very technical) and installation should have been £1500. Excluding making good.
The majority of chasing etc been done by myself.
Currently refurbing a late 50's property myself, thankfully brother is an electrician but sourcing materials myself and have been given an indication of labour cost (for my information)...
Materials are around £700 - 750 (down lighters kitchen & bathroom, plenty of sockets here there and everywhere, wiring & sockets for the garage but nothing very technical) and installation should have been £1500. Excluding making good.
The majority of chasing etc been done by myself.
The Moose said:
Can't help on the rewire, but if I were doing a property, I would most certainly run CAT5e cable here there and everywhere (and Pure Copper CAT5e cable at that).
Always useful for CCTV or printers etc etc?
Cheers
The Moose
I've just finished running cables in my renovation house. In the end I went for 4*CAT6 and 2 sat cables to each run. There is a new setup coming out later this year called HDbaseT which will replace HDMI and it works through cat5 and cat6. It allows, audio, hd video, telephone and internet as well as 100w of power to run down a single cat cable.Always useful for CCTV or printers etc etc?
Cheers
The Moose
The home AV market is only going to go one way which is why i've run CAT6 everywhere as I dont want it to be obsolete in 5 years time especially as all the plaster is off at the moment anyway.
Prices vary massively for the CAT6 so do a lot of research and bartering and you can get a good discount. They were coming out at £98 per 305 meters and in the end paid £51. Try and find someone with a trade account helps a lot
Talking prices on forums tends to end in "animated" discussions with 3rd partys who think possessing a screwfix catalogue and knowing the prices of the cheapest tatt on the market qualifies them to make bold statements about what they think you're earning....
And in any event the price for basic rewiring can easily triple with all the options.
Depending where you are in london I may be able to give you a quote, in any event make sure who you use knows their stuff- I spend more of my time putting right rubbish work than anything else these days- part P has done nothing to stem the flow of shoddy work, seems largely unenforced.
And in any event the price for basic rewiring can easily triple with all the options.
Depending where you are in london I may be able to give you a quote, in any event make sure who you use knows their stuff- I spend more of my time putting right rubbish work than anything else these days- part P has done nothing to stem the flow of shoddy work, seems largely unenforced.
Herbs said:
The Moose said:
Can't help on the rewire, but if I were doing a property, I would most certainly run CAT5e cable here there and everywhere (and Pure Copper CAT5e cable at that).
Always useful for CCTV or printers etc etc?
Cheers
The Moose
I've just finished running cables in my renovation house. In the end I went for 4*CAT6 and 2 sat cables to each run. There is a new setup coming out later this year called HDbaseT which will replace HDMI and it works through cat5 and cat6. It allows, audio, hd video, telephone and internet as well as 100w of power to run down a single cat cable.Always useful for CCTV or printers etc etc?
Cheers
The Moose
The home AV market is only going to go one way which is why i've run CAT6 everywhere as I dont want it to be obsolete in 5 years time especially as all the plaster is off at the moment anyway.
Prices vary massively for the CAT6 so do a lot of research and bartering and you can get a good discount. They were coming out at £98 per 305 meters and in the end paid £51. Try and find someone with a trade account helps a lot
If that's the case about HDbaseT then fine - I wasn't aware of that (not totally up to scratch currently for a couple of reasons!).
Cheers
The Moose
hairyben said:
Talking prices on forums tends to end in "animated" discussions with 3rd partys who think possessing a screwfix catalogue and knowing the prices of the cheapest tatt on the market qualifies them to make bold statements about what they think you're earning....
And in any event the price for basic rewiring can easily triple with all the options.
Depending where you are in london I may be able to give you a quote, in any event make sure who you use knows their stuff- I spend more of my time putting right rubbish work than anything else these days- part P has done nothing to stem the flow of shoddy work, seems largely unenforced.
You know whan Ben - I very nearly sent you a mail following your contributions on a previous thread that i'd searched..And in any event the price for basic rewiring can easily triple with all the options.
Depending where you are in london I may be able to give you a quote, in any event make sure who you use knows their stuff- I spend more of my time putting right rubbish work than anything else these days- part P has done nothing to stem the flow of shoddy work, seems largely unenforced.
The house we're looking at is in Leatherhead -
Yes depending on spec and size etc a sensible rewire throughout with new consumer unit etc must be £2500 plus. PLUS PLUS
YOU MUST HAVE A 16th edition certificate.
You MUST use a qualified sparks.
You could do all the channelling etc yourself fit the first fix wires etc and just use the sparks for the technical bit ie connections testing certificate.
If you can find a helpful sparks.
But modern wiring requires care time and is not cheap
YOU MUST HAVE A 16th edition certificate.
You MUST use a qualified sparks.
You could do all the channelling etc yourself fit the first fix wires etc and just use the sparks for the technical bit ie connections testing certificate.
If you can find a helpful sparks.
But modern wiring requires care time and is not cheap
Steffan said:
Yes depending on spec and size etc a sensible rewire throughout with new consumer unit etc must be £2500 plus. PLUS PLUS
YOU MUST HAVE A 16th edition certificate.
You MUST use a qualified sparks.
You could do all the channelling etc yourself fit the first fix wires etc and just use the sparks for the technical bit ie connections testing certificate.
If you can find a helpful sparks.
But modern wiring requires care time and is not cheap
Don't you mean 17th Edition?YOU MUST HAVE A 16th edition certificate.
You MUST use a qualified sparks.
You could do all the channelling etc yourself fit the first fix wires etc and just use the sparks for the technical bit ie connections testing certificate.
If you can find a helpful sparks.
But modern wiring requires care time and is not cheap
BERGS2 said:
hairyben said:
Talking prices on forums tends to end in "animated" discussions with 3rd partys who think possessing a screwfix catalogue and knowing the prices of the cheapest tatt on the market qualifies them to make bold statements about what they think you're earning....
And in any event the price for basic rewiring can easily triple with all the options.
Depending where you are in london I may be able to give you a quote, in any event make sure who you use knows their stuff- I spend more of my time putting right rubbish work than anything else these days- part P has done nothing to stem the flow of shoddy work, seems largely unenforced.
You know whan Ben - I very nearly sent you a mail following your contributions on a previous thread that i'd searched..And in any event the price for basic rewiring can easily triple with all the options.
Depending where you are in london I may be able to give you a quote, in any event make sure who you use knows their stuff- I spend more of my time putting right rubbish work than anything else these days- part P has done nothing to stem the flow of shoddy work, seems largely unenforced.
The house we're looking at is in Leatherhead -
Overall if you're willing to take on a refurb I'd say go for- you know what you're buying and you'll have everything done exactly right, soooo many houses sold as "freshly" or "recently refurbed" are a catalogue of disasters and bodges under the skin...
hairyben said:
Talking prices on forums tends to end in "animated" discussions with 3rd partys who think possessing a screwfix catalogue and knowing the prices of the cheapest tatt on the market qualifies them to make bold statements about what they think you're earning....
And in any event the price for basic rewiring can easily triple with all the options.
Depending where you are in london I may be able to give you a quote, in any event make sure who you use knows their stuff- I spend more of my time putting right rubbish work than anything else these days- part P has done nothing to stem the flow of shoddy work, seems largely unenforced.
As Ben says the parts may seem cheapish, but when you add them all up, it's a fair whack. There's then the chasing out, running the cables, testing and making good afterwards, plus the sparkie's project managing the task - liaising with you beforehand, buying the bits and pricing in some bad debt from those who don't pay.And in any event the price for basic rewiring can easily triple with all the options.
Depending where you are in london I may be able to give you a quote, in any event make sure who you use knows their stuff- I spend more of my time putting right rubbish work than anything else these days- part P has done nothing to stem the flow of shoddy work, seems largely unenforced.
The more you're prepared to do the more you'll save... I'd suggest making good yourself.
Trying to give a price isn't possible without seeing the place, but if it's tatty and carpets are already up etc I'd think about 2.5k to 4k would be the sort of ballpark for a basic rewire to a higher spec one.
dave_s13 said:
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t....I've "only" had Cat5/Sky cables put in (not 5e).
But then I used to use a Cat5 cable in my old house to stream HD movies to my Xbox and it worked fine??
I can't see why I should need anything more than Cat5.... What will I be missing?
cat 5 is certified to 10M/b per second, cat 5e to 100, cat 6 to one gigt....I've "only" had Cat5/Sky cables put in (not 5e).But then I used to use a Cat5 cable in my old house to stream HD movies to my Xbox and it worked fine??
I can't see why I should need anything more than Cat5.... What will I be missing?
The key word there is "certified"- lowly cables may carry more than their rating, poorly installed cables may carry significantly less.
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