Came electric gates - bane of my life
Came electric gates - bane of my life
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Rocksteadyeddie

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7,971 posts

251 months

Saturday 12th February 2011
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They always seem to be breaking down in one way shape or form

I have the ones with underground motors - Frog I think is the model. The latest "fault" is that one of the gates only opens half way. Even when the gate is not connected to the motor it stops half open / half shut. This has got me a bit stuck as it would appear not to be mechanical as there is nothing obstructing the motor, and it is not under load.

Any ideas out there in PH land?

Laurel Green

31,022 posts

256 months

Saturday 12th February 2011
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Would think it to be either the hinges or, linkage to the motor. Perhaps something stuck inside either of the two mentioned.

Rocksteadyeddie

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7,971 posts

251 months

Saturday 12th February 2011
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Linkage is undone. Gate opens freely by itself.

Laurel Green

31,022 posts

256 months

Saturday 12th February 2011
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Then I'd say there must be a faulty sensor somewhere. Sorry, I can't be more helpful - I used to (sometimes) build and fit them but, left the electrical part to others.

Targarama

14,718 posts

307 months

Saturday 12th February 2011
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Does it make a clonking noise when it gets to the point where the gate stops? Does the motor keep going through the whole cycle? On ours you can take the top off and watch the 'action'. Perhaps the motor is worn out - how old is it?

Rocksteadyeddie

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7,971 posts

251 months

Saturday 12th February 2011
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No clonking noise. Sounds exactly as normal and then just stops. It's almost like its doing the "pedestrian opening" thing - except it's the other gate that is on the pedestrian opening.

Driller

8,310 posts

302 months

Saturday 12th February 2011
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Sorry to hijack but I was going to post a qeustion asking about Came mechanisms as we have been quoted for one for some new gates.

Are they kack then? Anyone else has problems?

flyingjase

3,094 posts

255 months

Saturday 12th February 2011
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When we got our gates we were recomended against underground motors even though that's what I wanted because they were more discreet.

Sorry I cant help OP, except get a reputable access control company round to help.

I have Genius external motors and I have to say for most of the last 3.5 year they have been fitted, they've been great

mrsxllifts

2,501 posts

223 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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I have absolutely no idea on electric gates but some lifts use a similar mechanism on the doors. What tells the gate it is fully open? Does it have a limit switch, cam, timer, over current device? Is this activating too early? Can you dis-connect the gates from the mechanism? Does the cam/ram/rack do a full cycle? Just trying to elimate items so you know where the fault is. HTH

Ed FM

302 posts

223 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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I fit auto gates and sometimes use came. If fitted correctly the frog kits are pretty good. It sounds like the motor could be down on power, at the first stage of travel when the gate is moving see how much pressure it takes by hand to stop it. If it is very easy to stop this will be your problem. The torque can be increased on the control panel but you need to make sure that by doing this you dont end up with the other gate being too powerful. The torque cannot be set for motors individually. If there is a big difference in power it will mean the motor is worn out.

Ed.

anonymous-user

78 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Driller said:
Sorry to hijack but I was going to post a qeustion asking about Came mechanisms as we have been quoted for one for some new gates.

Are they kack then? Anyone else has problems?
I have a set, and they are fine with pretty good technical support and are easy to work on and adjust.

Where I live they last about 3 or 4 years before they either get too badly corroded or they get flooded, for normal residential use I would imagine they'll last 10 years or so.



Sorry op can't help, but give Came' a call and see what they say, depending on cost it may be worth buying a spare assembly to substitute when things go wrong.


Driller

8,310 posts

302 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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D3fender said:
I have a set, and they are fine with pretty good technical support and are easy to work on and adjust.

Where I live they last about 3 or 4 years before they either get too badly corroded or they get flooded, for normal residential use I would imagine they'll last 10 years or so.

Thanks smile

davidjpowell

18,620 posts

208 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Limited help, but we have recently been trading problems with our gates. Soon to be no more thank god.

Electrician seems to have tracked the fault to the intercom.

Symptoms were that the gates opened all the time, until they decided not to, when one would be half open and the other closed etc..

Fixed for 5 days, then the wind snapped on of the studs on the link bar, again.

For anyone thinking of using an underground Nice system on tall wooden gates, just don't!


andy43

12,611 posts

278 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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I normally phone ahead and get the groundsman to open the gates..

netherfield

3,082 posts

208 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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Rocksteadyeddie said:
They always seem to be breaking down in one way shape or form

I have the ones with underground motors - Frog I think is the model. The latest "fault" is that one of the gates only opens half way. Even when the gate is not connected to the motor it stops half open / half shut. This has got me a bit stuck as it would appear not to be mechanical as there is nothing obstructing the motor, and it is not under load.

Any ideas out there in PH land?
Could be the capacitor on the motor, I have a Ditec system,the only problems ever have been with the capacitors,both failed within six months of each, got some replacements from a local motor rewind shop and had no bother since.

Ed FM

302 posts

223 months

Sunday 13th February 2011
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It is possible it could be a capacitor problem. Usually if they fail they burst open at the end, if replacing make sure the replacement is the same microfarad size as the original. If it is different it will reduce the life of the operator.

Rocksteadyeddie

Original Poster:

7,971 posts

251 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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Sounds interesting. Presumably I can "swap" the good gate with the "bad" gate and this will show me if one is faulty?

G8 Doctor

8 posts

192 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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I may be able to help, so I have sent you a message Rocksteadyeddie



netherfield

3,082 posts

208 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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Rocksteadyeddie said:
Sounds interesting. Presumably I can "swap" the good gate with the "bad" gate and this will show me if one is faulty?
Thats what I did,give it a go .

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 14th February 2011
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I have a spare ram assembly for my gates, but mine looks a lot easier to swap out than the uunits fitted in the ground.

Swapping the start up capacitors from side to side is easy enough, take a snap with your phone of what wires go where, watch out that you don't touch the ends of the capacitor leads, they carry voltage even out of circuit.