Garage doors - which type?

[CIS121]

I'm building a garage at the back of the house and security's an issue more than looks. Roller types or up and over - is one considered better or should I consider any other types?

[dogbucket]

I have a domestic roller shutter and I would say it is more secure than an up and over imo. Being driven by a worm gear once motored down shut it can not be lifted open from the outside. There is also an internal cross locking bar on the inside if required. Saying that the runners are not particularly substantial so I would imagine a car backed into it would break it open in the same way an up and over would fail.

I am guessing a commercial grade metal roller would be the best, but then you need a stronger frame etc etc plus more cost.

[mrmaggit]

Sectional are the most secure, but also the most expensive. If you're building from scratch, get an 8ft wide x 7ft high door, that way you'll get any current production car or 4x4 in it. Any smaller and you may find you'll have to fold in the wing mirrors if you have an S-Class, or scraping the roof with a Discovery.

[CIS121]

Thanks folks. I'm got upto 3m to fit a door and it's an awkward angle to drive into, so I'm going to get a bigger one.

Any recommendations on a good value place for garage doors?

[S47]

Suggest you phone all the local suppliers in Yellow Pages, all you need is the width and height of door you require.
I recently had fitted a 4x2M electric roller shutter door [tough Commercial standard] to my new garage, cost was £560 fitted and it took them 2 days from initial enquiry to having the door fitted.
I had standard Galvanised finish though coloured plastic coating was availble for an additional £25.
Hope this helps

[doorman]

CIS121 said:

I'm building a garage at the back of the house and security's an issue more than looks. Roller types or up and over - is one considered better or should I consider any other types?

See my reply on another thread;

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

[mattdaniels]

mrmaggit said:

Sectional are the most secure, but also the most expensive. If you're building from scratch, get an 8ft wide x 7ft high door, that way you'll get any current production car or 4x4 in it. Any smaller and you may find you'll have to fold in the wing mirrors if you have an S-Class, or scraping the roof with a Discovery.

+1

Out Disco is 2.3m high and we're going to be rebuilding the garage, think we'll end up with 2.5m high opening.

[mrmaggit]

mattdaniels said:

mrmaggit said:

Sectional are the most secure, but also the most expensive. If you're building from scratch, get an 8ft wide x 7ft high door, that way you'll get any current production car or 4x4 in it. Any smaller and you may find you'll have to fold in the wing mirrors if you have an S-Class, or scraping the roof with a Discovery.

+1

Out Disco is 2.3m high and we're going to be rebuilding the garage, think we'll end up with 2.5m high opening.

I stand corrected. When I did the checking for the OH's Dad's garage, the info from LR was that 2.1mtr would be enough. I'll amend my records, thank you.

Just checked again, current Disco is 1888mm high at the highest in standard trim. So 7ft or 2100mm (metric slightly less) is still sufficient, unless you have a roof rack fitted.

Edited by mrmaggit on Monday 28th February 08:31

[RedLeicester]

mrmaggit said:

I stand corrected. When I did the checking for the OH's Dad's garage, the info from LR was that 2.1mtr would be enough. I'll amend my records, thank you.

Just checked again, current Disco is 1888mm high at the highest in standard trim. So 7ft or 2100mm (metric slightly less) is still sufficient, unless you have a roof rack fitted.

Be careful with that figure Maggit, it's for when the suspension is in access mode... so if a punter forgets it's crunch time. 1940mm would be a better figure, so it's getting tight, particularly if there's any sort of ramp or anything that'd make it bounce on the airy-hairy springs... Doable, but cutting it fine.

[mrmaggit]

RedLeicester said:

mrmaggit said:

I stand corrected. When I did the checking for the OH's Dad's garage, the info from LR was that 2.1mtr would be enough. I'll amend my records, thank you.

Just checked again, current Disco is 1888mm high at the highest in standard trim. So 7ft or 2100mm (metric slightly less) is still sufficient, unless you have a roof rack fitted.

Be careful with that figure Maggit, it's for when the suspension is in access mode... so if a punter forgets it's crunch time. 1940mm would be a better figure, so it's getting tight, particularly if there's any sort of ramp or anything that'd make it bounce on the airy-hairy springs... Doable, but cutting it fine.

Thanks again, you'd think that an explanation like that could be included in the info that LR release. I wonder how many discos have had their roofs scratched because the owner thought the opening was high enough?

[RedLeicester]

I wonder actually if they have now had complaints, as the dimensions of the Disco 4 are listed on the LR Website specifically as being in Access mode rather than just as bald figures!

[andy43]

I had a garage door fabricated where we lived about 10 years ago - 1" box outer frame rawlbolted to the brickwork, 1" box triangulated structure for the door, with sheet steel spot welded over, full height hinge to one side, and two 5 lever locks to the other side, with a bit of angle to cover the locks and stop a hacksaw getting in. It would have been easier for a thief to take the roof off..

[mattdaniels]

mrmaggit said:

RedLeicester said:

mrmaggit said:

I stand corrected. When I did the checking for the OH's Dad's garage, the info from LR was that 2.1mtr would be enough. I'll amend my records, thank you.

Just checked again, current Disco is 1888mm high at the highest in standard trim. So 7ft or 2100mm (metric slightly less) is still sufficient, unless you have a roof rack fitted.

Be careful with that figure Maggit, it's for when the suspension is in access mode... so if a punter forgets it's crunch time. 1940mm would be a better figure, so it's getting tight, particularly if there's any sort of ramp or anything that'd make it bounce on the airy-hairy springs... Doable, but cutting it fine.

Thanks again, you'd think that an explanation like that could be included in the info that LR release. I wonder how many discos have had their roofs scratched because the owner thought the opening was high enough?

Sound advice. Ignore the manual. It doesn't know your car, your tyres, your angle of getting in to the garage etc. Stick the car on off road suspension height, measure it, then add some.

Our D3 is a G4 so not only do we have the expedition roof rack but the spot lights and the G4 sign too, so on std height we need 2.3m clearance.

[RedLeicester]

Its become force of habit for me now in the Disco and the Rangie before that: going into a car park of any sort I flick the down switch. But then I'm paranoid after driving a Ford Explorer complete with roofrack into a multistorey in NZ - went under the height barrier just fine, nowhere to park on the ground floor so started going up the ramp to the 1st. On a hunch, I slammed on the brakes and got out to see the roofrack a couple of inches away from yanking a striplight off the ceiling.... never again!