Falcon Cooker - can you recommend a London specialist fixer?

[skwdenyer]

Hi. A friend of mine has a Falcon "Range" Cooker - a 211-GGO for those who like to indulge in a little rangespotting... There is a problem with one of the ovens - it appears that the pilot lights, but the burner doesn't fire up properly.

Falcon factory-recommended repairers have a pretty poor reputation, and the supply of parts is a little iffy. I know of people who've scrapped £3k range cookers from Falcon after 4 or 5 years because they were told - erroneously - that parts weren't available.

I'm therefore looking for any recommendations for a specialist in London who can be trusted to work out what is wrong and source the parts necessary at a fair price.

Can anybody help? Thanks!

[XanderH]

If the burner lights on low flame and doesn't come up to full flame it's most likely the flame failure device... A phial attached to a small valve. Try Falcon for it or Gas Appliance Spares in Preston perhaps.

But as for someone to do it....? I'm sorry, I don't know anyone over there.

[skwdenyer]

XanderH said:

If the burner lights on low flame and doesn't come up to full flame it's most likely the flame failure device... A phial attached to a small valve. Try Falcon for it or Gas Appliance Spares in Preston perhaps.

But as for someone to do it....? I'm sorry, I don't know anyone over there.

Thank you for that. I obviously got the wrong end of the stick: I was under the (mis?)apprehension that a failed FFD would prevent the burner from operating at all. Isn't that the point? No flame at all = gas shut off. Otherwise, from what I've read, the cooker couldn't pass normal gas safety tests, but I may have misunderstood.

[XanderH]

Yeah, that's a misapprehension.
On a gas oven the low flame heats up a phial to allow gas through on main burner. If it doesn't heat it then it won't allow main gas. It sounds like the FFD to me.

[Ricky_M]

Its probably the FSD (Flame Supervision Device). If I remember correctly, its a phial filled with mercury vapour. Slightly different to a flame failure device such as a thermocouple.

The oven will run at simmer rate until the phial detects a flame and will then run at full rate if the oven stat is calling for heat.

Have a poke around, it may have just fallen out of contact with the flame.

If not any decent heating engineer should be able to sort it out.

[XanderH]

Ricky_M said:

...Slightly different to a flame failure device such as a thermocouple.

Ah, apologies. I'm not Gas Safe registered, we have people who do that for us, I'm in Stainless Catering Kitchens.

[tpud]

If you want good advice on 'obselete' parts at a fair price I found BI-Gas Uk great 01643 707076. They don't fit them but, as someone said, any good fitter can do that - stopped me scrapping a 221 GGO having tried all the Falcon recommended suppliers in UK and Europe -> .