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Rockape

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284 posts

203 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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I'm looking for suggestions for a hedge to be dug into the back garden. We are in a new build estate and have a house directly behind our one. This house is set a little higher than ours. There is a wooden six foot high fence between the houses. I am looking to cover the width of the garden which is about 35 metres and to grow to about seven foot high.

I have been looking and saw ligustrum ovalifolium (a privet hedge)confused which look like they might do the job, or am I not looking at the right sort of plant??

Any other suggestions.

flyingjase

3,094 posts

255 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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Depends on your personal preference and budget really. I live on the edge of some woods and wanted something that would blend in to the environment and give me cover all year round, so I chose a native holly hedge from the company below. They provide 'instant hedge' so it was 6 feet tall when we planted it, not cheap but worth it.

http://www.pracbrown.co.uk/instant-hedge

On another part of my boundary (with the neighbours) we planted laurel. Again evergreen, not as in keeping as a holly but a lot less cost and fast growing.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

194 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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Yes, privet is fine unless you have really wet soil, and it's evergreen most winters.

I like yew for evergreen. Laurel (Bay or common or Portuguese) are good evergreens too.

I also like beech (in various leaf colours) or hornbeam looks similar if your soil is heavy, both hold onto their dead leaves until spring.

Or you can go mixed native!

http://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk/

flyingjase

3,094 posts

255 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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Mr GrimNasty said:
Yes, privet is fine unless you have really wet soil, and it's evergreen most winters.

I like yew for evergreen. Laurel (Bay or common or Portuguese) are good evergreens too.

I also like beech (in various leaf colours) or hornbeam looks similar if your soil is heavy, both hold onto their dead leaves until spring.

Or you can go mixed native!

http://www.hedgesdirect.co.uk/
I planted a mixed native before I went down the holly instant hedge route. The bloody thing got eaten by monkjacks!

netherfield

3,105 posts

208 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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Hornbeam would be my suggestion also,I have that and privet,the hornbeam will certainly be quicker to reach the required height,but the privet will take less maintenance.

Laurel can become quite large and invasive if not kept in check.

essexrobb

77 posts

184 months

Thursday 3rd March 2011
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another vote for english laurel, quite a few houses round ere have them on there boundries, mine is about 8ft high one and the previous owners let it get 8-10ft deep!! cant really do anything with that now but it eats into the driveway quite a bit.


we did the other side of our driveway and got it from a local place , good prices

http://www.o-l-d.co.uk/main/

Busamav

2,954 posts

232 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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some good links there,

marked for later use

Simpo Two

91,609 posts

289 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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flyingjase said:
The bloody thing got eaten by monkjacks!
A large hungry sub-species of muntjack with religious tendencies?

racing green

537 posts

197 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Yew everytime for me with Beech 2nd. Both will give an excellent hedge in 5-10 years and if they ever get to big can be cut back hard. Some thoughts on the others - Privet at that height is a bit unstable and more liable to dying back in parts. Laurel is all right but a real thug and will drop leaves (like all evergreens) in Summer. Holly likewise is an evergreen and the hedge cuttings will be prickly to clear. A mixed wild hedge (hawthorn, field maple, dog rose, cornus etc) is a good bet is you want to attract wildlife and provide a tough prickly screen but its not evergreen. But please, please, please not leylandii!!!!!!

Simpo Two

91,609 posts

289 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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We had a long yew hedge. Very nice and dense but tends to die off at the base leaving holes we found.

racing green

537 posts

197 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Have you got your 'batter' right Simpo? All hedges should be wider at the base than at the top to allow light to get to all parts of the hedge. Here is our yew hedge at work





For information the hedge was planted in 1965 but would have been this big after 15 years and has for the last thirteen years been kept at this size

Simpo Two

91,609 posts

289 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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racing green said:
Have you got your 'batter' right Simpo? All hedges should be wider at the base than at the top to allow light to get to all parts of the hedge.
To be fair our hedge didn't have quite the TLC that yours does!

racing green said:
Here is our yew hedge at work
I see no batter; it looks vertical to me...

Big garden you have there Mr Green!

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

194 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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I hope you donate your yew clippings! http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/about-cancer/cancer-q...

racing green

537 posts

197 months

Friday 4th March 2011
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Big garden I work in, batter - no its too late for that, not enough yew clippings and not of good enough quality. A friend of mine used to work for the company that deals with all the clippings and if its not clean and free from rubbish they can't use it.

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

194 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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racing green said:
Big garden I work in, batter - no its too late for that, not enough yew clippings and not of good enough quality. A friend of mine used to work for the company that deals with all the clippings and if its not clean and free from rubbish they can't use it.
The link explains quite clearly, thanks Mr negativity!

racing green

537 posts

197 months

Saturday 5th March 2011
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Not sure how you got negativity from my post, I was speaking from experience as about twenty years ago I use to send clippings away for this purpose and they need to be clean and free from rubbish ie not dropped on bare ground but cut onto sheets and then placed in bags and collected as quick as possible. My friend worked for the Chichester based company and loved it but it was hard work and long hours for those few months of cutting. Our hedge does not produce more than half a dumpy bag of clippings which for the companies concerned isn't enough to collect unless combined with another collection close by. I have no problem with this process or the companies and would recommend others to do this.

flyingjase

3,094 posts

255 months

Sunday 6th March 2011
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racing green - nicely topiared hedge! I wish I could be bothered to do mine as well

To the OP, here some examples

This is part of my holly hedge planted in March 2009. Originally 6 feet tall, now, 6.5 feet tall with some 'spurts' up to 8 feet tall



This is part of the Laurel. Planted July 2009 (wrong time to plant), the plants were about 1 foot tall and not very bushey. Now about 3 foot tall and really plumping out



These are my Yew Trees - planted over 30 years ago and never seem to grow. Gardener made a hash of trying to shape them a couple of years ago and can't seem to grow them out to repair the damage



So in other words don't go for Yew unless you can wait until you're coffin doger to get some privacy.

treehack

997 posts

263 months

Sunday 6th March 2011
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As an alternative to a hedge, if you put some trellis up on the existing fence then plant Passion Flower to grow up it. This would be faster growing than a hedge and you get the benefit of a colourful wall of flowers for the summer. Also you don't really need to do any maintanence, only thing i can think of is that it is recommended that it is cut right back every 7 years.

Handbag

584 posts

240 months

Sunday 11th September 2011
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Thought I'd resurrect this thread as I need some opinions on what type of hedge to go for. We back on to a field and the rear boundary is currently wide open and approx 20 metres long. I'm looking for density rather than height, 4-5ft max, that won't take eons to mature.

It's rather exposed to the wind so needs to be wind tolerant and act as a screen all the way to floor level as there's a public footpath running along the back which is lower level.

I'm liking the look of the Laurel pictured above, but I've someone told me that laurel isn't good for wildlife and could become difficult to maintain once it takes hold. Is this true?

Given the quantity I'd be buying I don't want to later find out I've made a mistake, so any advice or planting tips will be much appreciated smile