Neighbours parking on my land (I think)
Neighbours parking on my land (I think)
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Drive Blind

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5,619 posts

201 months

Thursday 31st March 2011
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Hi,

Need to tap into PH knowledge.

Situation is this. I live in a cul-de-sac. 12 detached houses plus 1 block of 4 flats. I stay in the block of flats. Each detached house has at least parking space for 2 cars, some have space for 3 or more. The block of flats has a parking area for 4 maybe 5 cars.

Some of the folk who live in the detached houses seem to think that the parking area outside the flats is a communal parking area for the whole street. They and their visitors regularly park in 'our' spaces.

Up until now I've turned a blind eye to it. I've always been able to squeeze into a space.

However today one of the neighbours (from the detached houses) tries to park in our 'bit' and crashes into my neighbours car. Fair enough she admitted responsibility but she still parks in our spaces. Was a proper crash too. Knocked a parked car about 2m forwards.

How do I verify these spaces are in fact 'ours' and not communal before I post out a letter or chap the doors of everybody else in the street informing them to leave our spaces clear?

Or do I let it go as a one off? Luckily it wasn't my car that got hit.

thanks for any advice.


davepoth

29,395 posts

223 months

Thursday 31st March 2011
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Drive Blind said:
Hi,

Need to tap into PH knowledge.

Situation is this. I live in a cul-de-sac. 12 detached houses plus 1 block of 4 flats. I stay in the block of flats. Each detached house has at least parking space for 2 cars, some have space for 3 or more. The block of flats has a parking area for 4 maybe 5 cars.

Some of the folk who live in the detached houses seem to think that the parking area outside the flats is a communal parking area for the whole street. They and their visitors regularly park in 'our' spaces.

Up until now I've turned a blind eye to it. I've always been able to squeeze into a space.

However today one of the neighbours (from the detached houses) tries to park in our 'bit' and crashes into my neighbours car. Fair enough she admitted responsibility but she still parks in our spaces. Was a proper crash too. Knocked a parked car about 2m forwards.

How do I verify these spaces are in fact 'ours' and not communal before I post out a letter or chap the doors of everybody else in the street informing them to leave our spaces clear?

Or do I let it go as a one off? Luckily it wasn't my car that got hit.

thanks for any advice.
Ask your landlord (if it's rental) or check the deeds.

Drive Blind

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5,619 posts

201 months

Thursday 31st March 2011
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3 of the flats are owner occupied. 1 is rented.

The bank who I have my mortgage with will have the deeds? I need to contact them for a copy?

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 31st March 2011
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Check if neighbours made a copy if deeds? A lot do when buying...

MJG280

723 posts

283 months

Thursday 31st March 2011
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The bank/Building Society will charge you for a copy. If you are just after the boundaries then Land Registry will be quicker and cheaper. The registration copy for your flat should show the boundaries of the block and might even tell you if the neighbours have rights over the blocks land.

Once you get a copy wave it in front of the neighbours and tell them to go away

55allgold

519 posts

182 months

Thursday 31st March 2011
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My GF lives in a similar situation. Her neighbour has a drive which originally was big enough for two cars. He's built over part of it and now uses the adjoining parking spaces - intended for use by other houses and flats - for: caravan, 4x4 and (occassionally) works van.

His deeds and my GF's deeds show exactly who's entitled to use what, but who's to enforce it?

Not much help, but it must be common. Only way to make it obvious would be to add house/flat numbers - painted on the ground or as small signs.

Drive Blind

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55allgold said:
Only way to make it obvious would be to add house/flat numbers - painted on the ground or as small signs.
I really don't want to go down that avenue.

It's a nice area, (one of the main reasons I bought the property) adding signs, road markings, etc is a road I don't want to go down.

But on the other hand one or two of the neighbours need a gentle reminder to think about where they park.

I just want to check I'm in the right before I deliver that gentle reminder.

Griff Boy

1,563 posts

255 months

Thursday 31st March 2011
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Drive Blind said:
55allgold said:
Only way to make it obvious would be to add house/flat numbers - painted on the ground or as small signs.
I really don't want to go down that avenue.

It's a nice area, (one of the main reasons I bought the property) adding signs, road markings, etc is a road I don't want to go down.

But on the other hand one or two of the neighbours need a gentle reminder to think about where they park.

I just want to check I'm in the right before I deliver that gentle reminder.
I agree with allgold, if the spaces are not marked as private or numbered how will other people know they are not communal? Pretty standard to mark them, I don't think it would ruin the look. Only issue would be getting all the other residents to agree and help pay for it!

Webber3

1,228 posts

243 months

Thursday 31st March 2011
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If it's a recent development you can look online at your local planning portal for the planning application. For a development like this, I'd expect to see a parking plan submitted.

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 31st March 2011
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Plan B, park in their places, they should get the hint...

Drive Blind

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Thursday 31st March 2011
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Griff Boy said:
I agree with allgold, if the spaces are not marked as private or numbered how will other people know they are not communal? Pretty standard to mark them, I don't think it would ruin the look. Only issue would be getting all the other residents to agree and help pay for it!
Because to me it's pretty obvious! The spaces outside the flats are for the flat owners only, the same way as your driveway is for your parking only. The area round this parking area is maintained by us.

Signs, markings, etc are going to cost me money. As well as looking chavvy.

The 4 flat owners, know who each car owner is and pretty much stick to the same places. If they have friends/family round then they park in such a manner that the 4 flat owners still have access.

The BMW driver who crashed into my neighbours earlier is still parked in our area despite having a garage and a driveway barely 50yards away.


Drive Blind

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Webber3 said:
If it's a recent development you can look online at your local planning portal for the planning application. For a development like this, I'd expect to see a parking plan submitted.
street/houses built about 22 years ago

Drive Blind

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Jimboka said:
Plan B, park in their places, they should get the hint...
I've came close a few times to parking on one of their driveways - not done it yet though.

robsti

12,241 posts

230 months

Thursday 31st March 2011
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You say that the people in the flats park in the same spaces which would seem normal!
If anybody parks in your space park directly behind them blocking them in ! They will soon get the message when you ps off to the pub and they can't get out for a few hours! wink

blueg33

44,980 posts

248 months

Thursday 31st March 2011
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Land Registry Website can tell you who owns the land. You can search by map and it will cost £4 to look at each title, so its best to start with the title for your flat.

www.landreg.gov.uk

Drive Blind

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blueg33 said:
Land Registry Website can tell you who owns the land. You can search by map and it will cost £4 to look at each title, so its best to start with the title for your flat.

www.landreg.gov.uk
cheers, tried that but not joy

[quote]Sorry, we have been unable to find a property that matches your enquiry.
Is that website for England only? I'm in Scotland.

Drive Blind

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Thursday 31st March 2011
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At the very least the BMW will be losing it's balancing weights tonight wink

Zeemax_Mini

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275 months

Thursday 31st March 2011
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I can see why you'd be worried about putting numbers up etc, but how about something more subtle?



Dom

blueg33

44,980 posts

248 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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Drive Blind said:
Is that website for England only? I'm in Scotland.
Sorry didn't realise you are in Scotland. I suspect there may be a similar one for Scotland. The website is very fussy about address format so the map search will soon tell you if it covers Scotland. I am on Blackberry today so can't check

Dr_Rick

1,713 posts

272 months

Friday 1st April 2011
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For Scotland you want Registers of Scotland (http://www.ros.gov.uk/)

Dr Rick