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pmanson

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13,388 posts

277 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Hi All,

Going to look at a new house on Friday which is 23ft wide and has a 6ft x 3ft (approx) flat roof porch on the front.

I was wondering if any one had experience/potential costs for the following (Obviously this is subject to planning permission but there is a lot of space out the front):

  • Knocking down the porch and replacing with a full width extention with a pitched roof (say 23ft x 4.5ft) which would allow us to extend the current lounge as well
Currently (looking at the plans) there is an internal porch door which opens directly into the lounge which also has the stairs in it. I would be looking to put up a stud wall to close off the lounge and put a usable hallway into the front of the house.



Cheers,
Phill

Busamav

2,954 posts

232 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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20 - 25k ?

furtive

4,501 posts

303 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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I would check with the local planning department. Some don't allow extensions to the front elevations

Slagathore

6,184 posts

216 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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That's a lot of work for not a lot of gain.

The layout seems fine as it is?

I don't think it would really add that much to the house's value either.

Busamav

2,954 posts

232 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Slagathore said:
That's a lot of work for not a lot of gain.

The layout seems fine as it is?

I don't think it would really add that much to the house's value either.
The fact that it would provde a seperate hall would be a great benefit to the saleability and hence price of a house with that present layout

pmanson

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13,388 posts

277 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Our thoughts would be to put up a stud wall any way to give us a lounge that we can shut away from the rest of house (eg. away from kids toys etc!).

Certainly something to bear in mind when we do the viewing.

Slagathore

6,184 posts

216 months

Monday 4th April 2011
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Yeah, you could create a bit of a hallway anyway, the extension would just make that hallway and the lounge a bit deeper, but it already seems a fair size.

Making the hall will take away from the width off the lounge, regardless of the extention on the front. Obviously, the extension would make up for the bit used for the hall, but for what will probably be at least £20k, it just seems a lot for what it will add.


hairyben

8,516 posts

207 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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Assume this is an end terrace? v. unlikely to get planning.

I know the plan is all off scale but seems to me the shower room/hall murders the extension area. I'd consider losing them, extending the lounge halfway into the kitchen, then the rest being large kitchen/dining/family area. Then you can have your hallway, the downstairs WC can go on the left after the stairs.

Nuisance_Value

721 posts

277 months

Wednesday 6th April 2011
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To be fair, trying to give even ballpark figures to do what you would like is just guesswork as we don't know the current construction type (is it a kit, traditional 2 skin, facing brick or render, roof tiles or slates, internal finish standard, building age, ground conditions, location, access etc etc) The second storey cill heights might prohibit a pitched roof anyway. Too many variables to give any constructive costs. I would approach some local builders who could at least have a look and take it from there (they could give you a better idea of 'rough costs' before actually pricing it) and have a chat with planning to see if it's even feasible.

andye30m3

3,498 posts

278 months

Thursday 7th April 2011
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I've been looking at a very similar extension which should have got planning today

Quite a lot of work for the space, I'm expecting around £35k+vat from the builders very quick look at it, although the one I'm looking at also includes converting a garage so maybe nearer £20-25+vat for the extension.

As others have said the pitch of the roof will often be quite shallow and this significantly restricts your choice of tile

pmanson

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13,388 posts

277 months

Tuesday 20th September 2011
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Well at long last (took a bit of time to sort out the finances) we have now secured an offer on our current house and had an offer accepted on this property!

Just been looking at the plans (again) and I was wondering if this may be a different approach:



My colour code:

Small green line - Block up old back door to allow kitchen units to be moved and the space better utilised
Red lines - Remove end of hallway in the new extension to allow access from side door into the property
Blue lines - Ideally remove these bits but I don't think this will be feasible due to that wall being the end of the old house (so possibly remove the arch that is currently in place

Longer term (green outline at the front of the house) - Remove old porch, fit pitched roof to the front of property, stud wall to give us a hallway and a separate lounge.

I think this will give us the best use of space without having to move services (eg. the shower room downstairs).

Any thoughts?

Cheers,
Phill