Random Orbital sander
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ExChrispy Porker

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252 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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I am in the market for one.
I will be doing some fairly heavy duty work.
Anyone got any recommendations?
Thanks.

sparkythecat

8,067 posts

279 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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I bought one of these a couple of years ago. I can't fault it

http://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-erb108sdr-300w-r...

Blakeatron

2,556 posts

197 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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In the workshop we only have Makita power tools - cant fault them, except their random orbit - died in weeks.

The 'cheaper' Bosch (green colour) has outlasted and outperformed 2 makitas, very very impressed.

Bare in mind ours run for 4-5hrs a day 6 days a week.

Only think about 6" diameter as the pads for smaller ones are more expensive in comparison. Also think about hooking it upto a hoover if you are doing a lot of work with it.

singlecoil

35,787 posts

270 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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If the budget warrants it, then Festool is the right stuff. Next down from that would probably be be Metabo

Simpo Two

91,478 posts

289 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Hmm. Does the disk actually rotate or just 'shudder'? If it just shudders how do the round ones compare with with the oblong ones?

I have a 1/3 sheet Bosch orbital sander but it really doesn't do much more than polish.

singlecoil

35,787 posts

270 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Simpo Two said:
Hmm. Does the disk actually rotate or just 'shudder'? If it just shudders how do the round ones compare with with the oblong ones?

I have a 1/3 sheet Bosch orbital sander but it really doesn't do much more than polish.
Some good info here,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Random_orbital_sander

but what really matters is that an RO sander, if a good one, will do a lot more than polish. Serious sanders.

Whoops, forgot the link

Edited by singlecoil on Saturday 9th April 19:34

ExChrispy Porker

Original Poster:

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Saturday 9th April 2011
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Thanks gents.
I'm shopping around at the moment.

Simpo Two

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289 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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singlecoil said:
Some good info here, but what really matters is that an RO sander, if a good one, will do a lot more than polish. Serious sanders.
I was trying to remove the varnish from a piece of mahoghany today and whatever I tried (orbital sander, drum sander, angle grinder with 12" disk bodged in) either clogged before it had done much or did little. The drum sander was the best, before it clogged too. Reckoned they made too much heat.

Eventually used Colron varnish remover, which in hindsight is what I should have used to start with!

singlecoil

35,787 posts

270 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Simpo Two said:
singlecoil said:
Some good info here, but what really matters is that an RO sander, if a good one, will do a lot more than polish. Serious sanders.
I was trying to remove the varnish from a piece of mahoghany today and whatever I tried (orbital sander, drum sander, angle grinder with 12" disk bodged in) either clogged before it had done much or did little. The drum sander was the best, before it clogged too. Reckoned they made too much heat.

Eventually used Colron varnish remover, which in hindsight is what I should have used to start with!
Scraper would probably have been the best thing to use, some varnish removers tend to leave a residue. If you dn't have a scraper, a hand held stanley knife blade will do quite well.

m4ckg

625 posts

215 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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if the budget allows, look at Festool. The best tools on the market

Mermaid

21,492 posts

195 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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I have a Corian worktop that needs freshening up - would a RO sander be the right tool for this?

singlecoil

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270 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Mermaid said:
I have a Corian worktop that needs freshening up - would a RO sander be the right tool for this?
Yes, but you need the right paper, start with a really fine one, then work your way down until you get to the one that just takes enough off to do the job then work you way back up again. If you are aimimg for a shine, then you will need a polishing compound, one designed for acrylic.

Keep the pad moving, to stop the surface overheating.

Blakeatron

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197 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Mermaid said:
I have a Corian worktop that needs freshening up - would a RO sander be the right tool for this?
It must be truly knackered to warrant a machine sand!

Try very carefully with some 1500wet and dry by hand on a hidden area, this will normally fix it (2000 grit if a bit scratchy) and then finish with a car type polish and clean thoroughly.

We have had a few festool tools on loan and I have never been that impressed, especially considering the price!

singlecoil

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270 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Blakeatron said:
We have had a few festool tools on loan and I have never been that impressed, especially considering the price!
I have had several, sold some of them when I stopped doing a kitchens a while back (easy sell at 2/3 the new price) and now I am busy acquiring more. They certainly are expensive, but to me they are well worth it. The perfomance of the TS55 and rail system especially is absolutely superb. Next on my list is the C12 cordless drill set.

AlexJ12

161 posts

181 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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Sorry for being my first post and all that but if you are looking for a decent sander then there is no better than a Festool (either the RO125 or the RO 150. I have a floor sanding business and take it from me i have tried them all dewalt/makita etc etc and nothing else comes close in my line of work it gets used and abused every day and it has never gone wrong.

When i bought mine i balked at the price as it seemed far to expensive from everything i had bought and tried in the past, but now i'm converted also they are built to last and backed up with a 3 year warranty.

Subsquently i have in the last 2 years bought a festool hoover and recently just bought a festool drop saw...have look at there website if you like looking at power tools take a gander at there website or even look on youtube.


Simpo Two

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289 months

Saturday 9th April 2011
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singlecoil said:
Scraper would probably have been the best thing to use, some varnish removers tend to leave a residue. If you dn't have a scraper, a hand held stanley knife blade will do quite well.
Slightly to my surprise it worked incredibly well - the varnish was sunbaked yacht varnish 40 years old, but half an hour festering under the remover, followed by scraping off the clag with a wide chisel and wiping down thoroughly with white spirit as per instructions, got rid of it a treat. To my surprise the first new coat of yacht varnish was almost dry in a few hours, but then I am using Blackfriars not Ronseal so maybe that's the difference; Ronseal always seems to take several days in the airing cupboard before it can be handled it safely.

ExChrispy Porker

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Thursday 14th April 2011
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I bought a Dewalt in the end. Seemed a good deal at £70.

Mermaid

21,492 posts

195 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Blakeatron said:
Mermaid said:
I have a Corian worktop that needs freshening up - would a RO sander be the right tool for this?
It must be truly knackered to warrant a machine sand!

Try very carefully with some 1500wet and dry by hand on a hidden area, this will normally fix it (2000 grit if a bit scratchy) and then finish with a car type polish and clean thoroughly.
It's not that bad -and it is a matt finish. Will the 4 wet & dry system work to remove the scratches and yet keep the matt finish?

annodomini2

6,963 posts

275 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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Get a dual action unit

Mermaid

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195 months

Thursday 14th April 2011
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annodomini2 said:
Get a dual action unit
Just got one from Wickes - can't seem to find a supplier who stocks 125mm 8 hole hook & loop sanding discs in 400, 600, 800 grit.
Any suggestions?