Spear & Jackson
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vxsmithers

Original Poster:

729 posts

231 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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I thought they were supposed to be a good quality brand?

Used my fork for the first time this weekend and snapped it in half.

Admittedly a fork is not really meant to extract an ivy root system but I've always given previous forks a bit of a work out. The prongs didn't bend, but it snapped at the head so I'm thinking manufacturing default.

Is this reasonable use to return? (Going to anyway!) Just want to see if the masses think a fork should be up to doing what I thought was a fairly light task!

Jonboy_t

5,038 posts

214 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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I always thought they were supposed to be good too! How long have you had it and how long has it been sat somewhere damp?!!

tractorguy

765 posts

190 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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There not good at all, I got a pair of shears that lasted a weekend. Take them back and get Draper.

eliot

11,999 posts

285 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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tractorguy said:
Take them back and get Draper.
Hows buying some cheap chinese junk going to help?

Nobaccymaccy

572 posts

233 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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did it have a brass handle ?

MrCheese

360 posts

214 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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The key words here were "ivy root system". I went through a spade and fork getting some of that stuff out. Although its not a permanent solution I did take a chainsaw to one particularly large ivy root which was very satisfying.

I bought several fork handles and replace them as they snap.

dirkgently

2,160 posts

262 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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forkandles?

Stu R

21,685 posts

246 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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eliot said:
tractorguy said:
Take them back and get Draper.
Hows buying some cheap chinese junk going to help?
Spear and Jackson are cheap Chinese junk, infact, since moving to China I wouldn't be at all surprised if the quality was improved significantly, time will tell but they're garbage these days.

giw12

1,463 posts

294 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Treat yourself to Bulldog tools. The rest are pretty much all garbage.

burwoodman

18,718 posts

277 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Spear & Jackson 'used' to have a good name. But like so many others, have followed the path of cost cutting (about a decade ago)

retrorider

1,339 posts

232 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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eliot said:
tractorguy said:
Take them back and get Draper.
Hows buying some cheap chinese junk going to help?
Where do you think most of the stuff you buy is made then ? The majority of garden tools on sale today are made in India...

Edited by retrorider on Tuesday 3rd May 15:59

Nicholas Blair

4,111 posts

315 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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fork handles........

here

Edited by Nicholas Blair on Tuesday 3rd May 16:16


Edited by Nicholas Blair on Tuesday 3rd May 16:17

Simpo Two

93,026 posts

296 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Looks like there could be a niche for carbon fibre gardening tools!



(oh and if anyone starts it, that'll be 10% royalty on each one sold please)

GWC

4,432 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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I bought one of their 'neverbend®' Stainless steel forks, the first I used it it bent, so I took it back and exchanged it and that one bent too, this was doing basic gardening in flowerbeds.

Simpo Two

93,026 posts

296 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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I suppose that if you stick a large garden fork into clay soil or roots and hang 15 stone on the back of it, it's going to bend. The answer, practically, is to take smaller bites.

Stu R

21,685 posts

246 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Simpo Two said:
Looks like there could be a niche for carbon fibre gardening tools!



(oh and if anyone starts it, that'll be 10% royalty on each one sold please)
Will you also cover the liability of the carbon snapping and spearing the poor victim in the groin? biggrin

Shaolin

2,955 posts

220 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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You need a mattock grubbins for heavy duty digging.

http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=mattock+grubbins&...

rsv gone!

11,288 posts

272 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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eliot said:
Hows buying some cheap chinese junk going to help?
It never hurt Apple's sales

Mr GrimNasty

8,172 posts

201 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Best place to get garden tools is second hand - because they just don't make them like they used to. If something is 50 years old and as solid (if not as clean) as the day it was made (IN ENGLAND!!!!), you know you can hang 15 stone off it and it'll still be fine in another 50 years. And they actually understood ergonomics back then.

They actually make tools like trowels out of cheap alloy now - join to shaft stress fracture breaks after a few weeks.
And why can't you get cutting implements with return springs that actually are strong enough to return?
And why do so many tools have a sharp plastic edge moulded just where you need to grip it?

Waste of money buying cheap Chinese (mainly) junk these days.

vxsmithers

Original Poster:

729 posts

231 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2011
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Thought as much - not as good as they used to be.

The fork in question had been used maybe 5 times before for light digging, and was kept in a dry shed cleaned. It was also a stainless steel one. There were only 2 or three roots left that were less than 1 inch wide as I'd used my shears to chop most of them through already (me botch, never!)

I would have used a mattock, but I don't have one and couldn't justify the limited use I'd give it - nothing more satisfying than wielding one about in the sun smile

I think it was just a badly made p.o.s. although not cheap! Will be going back at the weekend, will see what I can replace it with when I'm there.