Dog with consistently runny stools
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Arnie is a 2.5 year old Pug.
A few months ago he started having runny stools, and still has them
He has been to the vets several times with it, they have given him antibiotics, steriods, probiotics, tested a stool sample and blood sample, all of which have not worked/identified the cause.
There is nothing else wrong with him at all, still energetic and happy etc. Sometimes his stools are just sloppy, sometimes its brown water, which is expelled at quite a pressure for a little dog!
He is currently on a vet recommended diet of pork and potatoes, and not a thing more. 3 days in this doesnt appear to be doing anything, but Ill wait and see. How long would this usually take to make a difference?
He likes to eat rocks (mainly the limestone chippings on my drive), could one of these be stuck somewhere and cause this? I mentioned it to the vet but she didnt think it was that, and appears to be concentrating on a food allergy of some sort.
He spends a lot of time with my mums dog (a Scottie) and he is fine, so i dont think its anything 'catching'.
Anyone offer any insight/advice?
Thanks
A few months ago he started having runny stools, and still has them
He has been to the vets several times with it, they have given him antibiotics, steriods, probiotics, tested a stool sample and blood sample, all of which have not worked/identified the cause.
There is nothing else wrong with him at all, still energetic and happy etc. Sometimes his stools are just sloppy, sometimes its brown water, which is expelled at quite a pressure for a little dog!
He is currently on a vet recommended diet of pork and potatoes, and not a thing more. 3 days in this doesnt appear to be doing anything, but Ill wait and see. How long would this usually take to make a difference?
He likes to eat rocks (mainly the limestone chippings on my drive), could one of these be stuck somewhere and cause this? I mentioned it to the vet but she didnt think it was that, and appears to be concentrating on a food allergy of some sort.
He spends a lot of time with my mums dog (a Scottie) and he is fine, so i dont think its anything 'catching'.
Anyone offer any insight/advice?
Thanks
My ridgeback had a similar issue with sloppy runny poo's
I went to the Vet and he go put on Pork and Tatties diet - was buying a large shoulder of pork and that would last around 4 days
it takes around 3 months for everything to be sorted out with absolutely no scraps off plates of anything
Now he is fine , moved him on to Burns pork and potato dry food and is great with much better coat and much more settled tummy and no really stinking farting either
It really does take time for everything to settle back down , even 3 weeks isnt enough
I went to the Vet and he go put on Pork and Tatties diet - was buying a large shoulder of pork and that would last around 4 days
it takes around 3 months for everything to be sorted out with absolutely no scraps off plates of anything
Now he is fine , moved him on to Burns pork and potato dry food and is great with much better coat and much more settled tummy and no really stinking farting either
It really does take time for everything to settle back down , even 3 weeks isnt enough
Not familiar with using pork and it's raw pork you need to avoid (or undercooked), though I understand the thinking. The idea is to use a food base that the dog would not have had in a normal diet. (Usually fish is advised in my experience)
I would avoid chicken and tripe tbh, this is a food elimination trial, tripe does contain some vit and min and good bacteria but it is often the reason for flatulence etc and chicken protein is a very common food source that dogs can develop an intolerance to (beef being the other one).
That doesn't mean to say that chicken can't ever be reintroduced but needs to be avoided for at least the next 6 weeks. (and then maybe consider green tripe)
There are specific diets designed for this very purpose, they are expensive but for some it is easier than trying to cook up portions of food every day. Hills ZD is one of the best for this purpose. However if you are happy to cook up foods continue as you are but maybe question the pork.
(Re the faecal sample, did they do a 3 day pooled sample?) Have they done a TLI, Folate and Cobalamin test?
I would avoid chicken and tripe tbh, this is a food elimination trial, tripe does contain some vit and min and good bacteria but it is often the reason for flatulence etc and chicken protein is a very common food source that dogs can develop an intolerance to (beef being the other one).
That doesn't mean to say that chicken can't ever be reintroduced but needs to be avoided for at least the next 6 weeks. (and then maybe consider green tripe)
There are specific diets designed for this very purpose, they are expensive but for some it is easier than trying to cook up portions of food every day. Hills ZD is one of the best for this purpose. However if you are happy to cook up foods continue as you are but maybe question the pork.
(Re the faecal sample, did they do a 3 day pooled sample?) Have they done a TLI, Folate and Cobalamin test?
Edited by bexVN on Monday 23 January 08:50
Edited by bexVN on Monday 23 January 09:12
Bex has beaten me to it!
It takes at least 6 weeks to see if an elimination diet is working. I guess you were told pork as this is a novel protein source for your dog?
Dogs can be intolerant/allergic to so many things. I never feed anything with colourings or additives, nor do I feed grain as dogs don't really tolerate it.
Hope you see better results soon!
It takes at least 6 weeks to see if an elimination diet is working. I guess you were told pork as this is a novel protein source for your dog?
Dogs can be intolerant/allergic to so many things. I never feed anything with colourings or additives, nor do I feed grain as dogs don't really tolerate it.
Hope you see better results soon!
Defcon5 said:
bexVN said:
Re the faecal sample, did they do a 3 day pooled sample?) Have they done a TLI, Folate and Cobalamin test?
Yes it was over 3 days, no idea about those other 3 things. I just ask for the simple explanation 
He is quite enjoying his new diet, the greedy little swine
Went through this with my dog. The vets did all sorts of blood urine poo tests and came up with nothing. I changed her food to Arden Grange dry stuff and in about 2 days she has been fine ever since nice and solid and regular.
Hills and James Wellbeloved just produced mounds of slop.
She is normally fed the Arden Grange chicken flavour but every now and then switch it for the Fish which makes her poo super solid.
Not saying this is your answer just that it worked for me.
Hills and James Wellbeloved just produced mounds of slop.
She is normally fed the Arden Grange chicken flavour but every now and then switch it for the Fish which makes her poo super solid.
Not saying this is your answer just that it worked for me.
One of our two has Collitis which caused runny poo's, not an allergy to anything in particular, just most foods give her runny poo's.
She is now fed Royal Canin Hypoallergenic dried food, it's not cheap but it works a treat-no rubbish in it and she has been perfect ever since, if she gets treats or tit-bits tho the runny poo's come back.
She is now fed Royal Canin Hypoallergenic dried food, it's not cheap but it works a treat-no rubbish in it and she has been perfect ever since, if she gets treats or tit-bits tho the runny poo's come back.
OP why not see (rather than burns/royal canin/insert generic kibble dog food made of wheat and cereals etc) if you can't change to a raw meat diet!?!? Perhaps if you look into it a little you would see the benefits of it? (don't get me wrong, it's harder work than kibble and a little more expensive as a general rule)
bexVN said:
Just a thought, how long did you use the probiotic for. It is generally felt that it should be at least a month but often it's given for just a few days (ok in one off cases but not enough for a chronic case)
I was given a weeks worth. Although they gave me it to give him at the same time as the antibioticsWe fed turkey mince, spud and tapioca for at least three months after our Irish developed the 'gluten related villus atrophy' (coeliac disease). It started at six months old and took three years for him to catch up with his weight.
Now its JWB meat and veg food (green foil type bags) that works fine. A couple of others would be fine as well (eg Fish4Dogs).
Stick with it - keep the pressure washer handy.
Now its JWB meat and veg food (green foil type bags) that works fine. A couple of others would be fine as well (eg Fish4Dogs).
Stick with it - keep the pressure washer handy.
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