Which bird did I see?
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Manks

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The other morning I was walking by the River Trent and a flight of swans flew across my path before turning and following the Trent. There must have been fifty of them and it was quite impressive. However, there was one bird that did not fit in. It was about 3/4 the size of a swan with a shorter neck. It was grey with the last 1/4 of each wing black and it had a redish beak which was not flat like a swan's but more pointed and round looking.

Any ideas what it might have been?

otolith

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condor

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Sunday 12th February 2012
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Canadian goose?

Manks

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condor said:
Canadian goose?
Don't think so. The beak was narrower and the bird looked more "purposeful". There was something eagle-like about it and the grey reminded me of a fighter aircraft grey. The grey also appeared to be more solid than the shades of grey on a goose.

Edited by Manks on Sunday 12th February 19:24

Simpo Two

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Manks

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Simpo Two said:
Bigger than a seagull and it had a red beak. Though the beak was the shape of a gull's.

Edited by Manks on Sunday 12th February 22:04

tenex

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Monday 13th February 2012
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A white stork?
Don't know much about them. Grey could be juvenile/winter moult.

Manks

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tenex said:


A white stork?
Don't know much about them. Grey could be juvenile/winter moult.
Yes, make the white feathers grey and that is pretty much what I saw. Would such a bird fly with swans?

marcosgt

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Monday 13th February 2012
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Heron?



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balders118

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Monday 13th February 2012
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marcosgt said:
Heron?



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would have been my guess too...

Manks

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balders118 said:
marcosgt said:
Heron?



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would have been my guess too...
We do have a lot of herons here, but it didn't seem to have a kinked neck in flight and the beak was redder.

tenex

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Monday 13th February 2012
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Manks said:
tenex said:


A white stork?
Don't know much about them. Grey could be juvenile/winter moult.
Yes, make the white feathers grey and that is pretty much what I saw. Would such a bird fly with swans?
My first thoughts were heron but the red beak was wrong.(Breeding adults can have a tinge but not that you would notice on 'flypast'. Anyway, you seem familiar with them.
I'm sure there is a lot of stuff being pushed over from the continent at the moment,due to the weather.
I've never seen a white stork, but in the 'wild' swans always appear very white.
So duller white as opposed to grey?
Just guessing. smile

Manks

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tenex said:
My first thoughts were heron but the red beak was wrong.(Breeding adults can have a tinge but not that you would notice on 'flypast'. Anyway, you seem familiar with them.
I'm sure there is a lot of stuff being pushed over from the continent at the moment,due to the weather.
I've never seen a white stork, but in the 'wild' swans always appear very white.
So duller white as opposed to grey?
Just guessing. smile
This may sound like an odd description but alongside the swans it looked like a military aircraft. 3/4 the size, sleeker and with the red beak.

Edited by Manks on Monday 13th February 09:57

balders118

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Monday 13th February 2012
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What was it's singspan:body ratio. The heron for example has massive wings and a comparitivly slender body, where as the swan has a much bulkier body in comparison...?

What was it's flight like? Going back to the heron for another example, they have a very distinctive slow flap of their wings, where as a swans is faster and more "flappy".

balders118

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Monday 13th February 2012
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Next guess, a Goosander:



They do have very red beaks

Manks

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balders118 said:
What was it's singspan:body ratio. The heron for example has massive wings and a comparitivly slender body, where as the swan has a much bulkier body in comparison...?

What was it's flight like? Going back to the heron for another example, they have a very distinctive slow flap of their wings, where as a swans is faster and more "flappy".
Cannot remember that level of detail. It just looked slightly smallaer and more aggressive than the swans.

tenex

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Monday 13th February 2012
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balders118 said:
Next guess, a Goosander:



They do have very red beaks
I was thinking along the same lines (female) and a real long shot a Shelduck.
There are very few birds of that size with an obvious red beak.
CENTRAL on here is the expert. He will probably be able to help.
Sounds to me it is something 'exotic' that I've never come across. An escapee or similar.

Robatr0n

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Tuesday 14th February 2012
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Bar-headed goose?