Puppy bed wetting
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crashley

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1,574 posts

203 months

Tuesday 12th February 2013
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We've got a 4month old Boxer who we are crate training.

Problem (or not) is that she still can't even last the night without wetting her bed, and more of a worry is that I'm sure sometimes she's actually doing it on her bed - we're talking at most 6 hours on her own. She doesn't cry or bark once she's down for the night.

Any ideas or should I be more patient?

Here she is



Cheers, ash

C3BER

4,714 posts

246 months

Wednesday 13th February 2013
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The obvious walks before bed and don't bring the pup in after its had a wee etc. keep the dog out or you will teach the pup to hold which it cannot do at its age.

Is the crate to big?

If it is the dog will foul its crate rather than not wanting to dirty it's bed.

bexVN

14,690 posts

234 months

Thursday 14th February 2013
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I would lessen the gap for a few nights, will be a pain for you but will be fairly short lived hopefully, try midnight then 4am, see if her bed is dry at this point, if it is great, if not shorten the gap again. When you take her out keep it dark, quiet, minimal fuss when she wees, straight back to crate to bed. If successful slowly increase the gap by half an her (say every couple day) and see how it goes.

She's still young, some take til 6 months. I assume she is good during day. Good luck

C3BER

4,714 posts

246 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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No no no Bex, never to bed striaght after a wee. If the dog likes the outdoors it will learn very quickly, "if I wee I go in". Yes nice and calm but its not slippers on by the back door and striaght in because your cold.

Wee, praise, little calm play, hug and comfort and off to bed.

As for the pup, just kick it out wink

Karyn

6,053 posts

191 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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I can't imagine for one second that Bex was suggesting that once the deed is done the OP should then badger pup back indoors... I'd imagine (hope I'm right, Bex! wink ) that she was meaning, "once the deed is done, then back to bed", rather than "once the deed is done, piss around ('scuse the pun) outside for as long as you like then come back inside for a bit more playing, then up to bed when you're good and ready".

Which is the same thing you're trying to avoid, also! biggrin


OP - lessen the timeframe that she has to cross her legs for! Toilet immediately before bed, again a couple of hours later, and again a few hours after that... then up at the crack of a sparrow's fart for an early-morning toilet...


It will be horrific for you in the short-term, but worth it in the long run! (Our youngest dog took about 2 weeks to get the hang of it... two weeks of three-or-four-trips-outside-a-night. rolleyes



Edit - actually, C3BER, I can't understand whether you're joking about a wife/pup play on words, or whether you're suggesting the OP play with his pup in the middle of the night?!

Edited by Karyn on Friday 15th February 12:37

C3BER

4,714 posts

246 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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Good edit. smile

Pups learn like mad at this age and toilet training is just one aspect. Don't rush back indoors and the pup will relax. A stressed pup will hold if you bring inside just after its wee. Hold and then wee in its bed which is not what you want.


Karyn

6,053 posts

191 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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...I think the general rule of thumb for the last-thing-at-night and first-thing-in-the-morning toileting is not to come back inside until pup has toileted, and let them come in naturally, rather than being badgered back inside.

For the middle of the night trips, C3BER is right about not stressing the pup, so perhaps just nip out with them every few hours, keep it calm, and come inside again after a few minutes, whether or not pup has "been". (Chances are, if they need to go, they'll go pretty quickly, so a few minutes should suffice.)


Re the stress thing... I don't know that I'd ever take it as far as playing with pup at half 3 in the morning, but... strokes and folks! wink

bexVN

14,690 posts

234 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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I meant middle of the night is not playtime, if she needs to go out, do it quietly with minimal fuss. otherwise pup will wake up too much and not settle well after going out for a night time wee, it will quickly learn to use the night time pee for attention rather than the deed of toileting.

I did not mean rush the pup to have a wee though. Hope that makes sense?

nick_j007

1,598 posts

225 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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I too say no love and hugs or play in the night (for the dog), toilet breaks should be to the point so as to avoid any other clingy habits that might develop as a result.

Another tip is to lift the pups water after 8pm so as to avoid big drinks which inevitably end in the need for the garden in the small hours. Free access to water at all other times of course.

Beautiful looking pup. When I was a young lad I hankered for a Boxer as it starred in a Peter and Jane book I once read. Ages me a bit wink

Stay patient with the pup and never tell her off for wet bedding. Obvious probably, but worth pointing out.

Nick

crashley

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1,574 posts

203 months

Friday 15th February 2013
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She would never get told off for that.

Thanks for advice all.

Karyn

6,053 posts

191 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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Any progress, OP?

Makes me sort of glad for our little madam. There was never any bed-wetting; it was always an imperial, short bark when stood by the door.

"One feels the need to relieve oneself. Drag thine arse out thy pit, humble servant. I don't care that it's 2.47am; I need you to open the doors!" All in one short bark!

ED209

6,003 posts

267 months

Saturday 16th February 2013
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trying not to be a doom monger but keep a close eye on this.

Not being able to control her bladder and excessive drinking were the first signs of the kidney problem that took our lab pup this week. At the time we put it down to her being a puppy, hindsight is a wonderful thing but if we had realised sooner maybe we could have done something?

crashley

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1,574 posts

203 months

Monday 18th February 2013
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Karyn said:
Any progress, OP?

Makes me sort of glad for our little madam. There was never any bed-wetting; it was always an imperial, short bark when stood by the door.

"One feels the need to relieve oneself. Drag thine arse out thy pit, humble servant. I don't care that it's 2.47am; I need you to open the doors!" All in one short bark!
Not really sure. It's still rather hit and miss. I'm also a little concerned about the amount she drinks, so might pop her down the vet and check all is ok.

Karyn

6,053 posts

191 months

Monday 18th February 2013
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If concerns have crept in, it might well be worth a vet trip, if only for your piece of mind.

Have you tried the potty-stops at a few-hour intervals during the night? Did they help at all?

And she doesn't toilet indoors during the day at all?

bexVN

14,690 posts

234 months

Monday 18th February 2013
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If you are worried about the amount she's drinking, try and collect a urine sample to take with you to the appointment (fresh as poss). You could also measure her water intake over 24hrs and see if they think it's too much or not, is she on dry food? They do drink more on dry food compared to wet diet.

crashley

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1,574 posts

203 months

Sunday 24th February 2013
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So, after a bunch of various tests to make sure all is good with the little menace, it transpires she has a urinary tract infection so she's now on a three week antibiotics course to clear it up. Hopefully this should put an end to her slightly wet nights. smile

bexVN

14,690 posts

234 months

Sunday 24th February 2013
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crashley said:
So, after a bunch of various tests to make sure all is good with the little menace, it transpires she has a urinary tract infection so she's now on a three week antibiotics course to clear it up. Hopefully this should put an end to her slightly wet nights. smile
Aww, well done on getting her checked out, good call. Hope it clears up quickly for her (and you!)