Dog with urinary problems and peeing blood
Dog with urinary problems and peeing blood
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Rouleur

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7,368 posts

213 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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My Springer peed in the kitchen last night for the first time ever and today he's had been weeing little bits here and there. There's sometimes mucous-y blood in it too.

The vet's given me some anti-bios and wants me to get a urine sample, but I bumped into my neighbour earlier and by an amazing fluke her Springer had a similar problem a few years ago. Apparently it can be caused by high magnesium sulphate levels in food creating crystals in the urine which create a blockage, and recently I changed Jackson's food to one I've not used before.

I know this is a long shot but has anyone's dog had a similar problem? I'm going to try and get some of his old feed tomorrow and in the meantime have bought some Chappie as Bex recommended it once for something or other, and wet food is meant to be good for reducing the crystals.

bexVN

14,690 posts

235 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Get the urine sample asap. Get it to the vets as a fresh as possible. Eg collect tom am and go straight to vets with it.

Don't be worrying about crystals yet, they take a while to form, if there is a link to the diet it's more likely that the diet has changed his urine pH. There are many reasons, they will rule out the most common then work down the possible conditions.

Interestingly you mention recent diet change. Years ago I got given a bag of hills science plan senior. I had a 13yr old collie, she'd been on eukanuba at that time for years. She liked the hills, all was good until she had a bout of cystitis. A'bios cleared it but 10 days later it came back, so xrays etc were done, all clear. I twigged the link between the timing of diet change and her illness. I phoned Hills but they denied it could happen (lots of reasons) I ignored them, changed her food back to Eukanuba and she never had another attack again!!

So consider that a possibility. Good idea to go back to his old feed for now.



Edited by bexVN on Thursday 15th August 21:35

Rouleur

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213 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Thanks for that. The vet mentioned cystitis actually so as you say hopefully the anti-biotics and food change will do the trick.

I've said it before but you're a star Bex!

bexVN

14,690 posts

235 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Not a problem thumbup

If it does turn out to be crystals your vet will be able to go through what will need to be done to get rid of them (more than just giving a standard wet food I'm afraid but as I said that will be looked into if not a quick response to initial treatment along with other reasons for the symptoms.

Just out of interest did your vet prescribe any pain relief/ anti inflammatory treatment?

Edited by bexVN on Thursday 15th August 22:23

theshrew

6,008 posts

208 months

Thursday 15th August 2013
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Yes my youngest Cocker had this the day after I got her as a pup.

The vet gave her anti biotics etc. Took a while to clear up they didn't say what it was might be something different from yours. they said it was probably caused from stress leaving her mum.

Im really lucky she survived tbh she wouldn't drink or eat anything. I ended up force feeding / giving her water with a syringe etc around the clock for a week ish. So make sure yours is drinking ok.

It then progressed to her not being able to wee which got me worried again, after a day or so so passed what I can only describe as blood that had turned to jelly about the size of a jelly bean but twice as long. After that happened she got a lot better very quickly.

Worth changing your food back just in case its that. Hope your dog gets better soon.

Rouleur

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Thursday 15th August 2013
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Thanks theshrew!

Bex - no, she didn't prescribe any but he's certainly not even in any discomfort, he's as happy as Larry. Drinking as normal too, which my internet reading suggests can help to flush out the infection if that's what it is.

SPR2

3,216 posts

220 months

Sunday 18th August 2013
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How are things with Jackson?

Rouleur

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213 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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Fine and dandy thanks. The following morning he was peeing okay again and it's been fine since. I'll get word back on the test some time this week so I'll be interested to see what it shows up. Also he's back on his old food, which I'll never change again!

Cheers

SPR2

3,216 posts

220 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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Rouleur said:
Fine and dandy thanks. The following morning he was peeing okay again and it's been fine since. I'll get word back on the test some time this week so I'll be interested to see what it shows up. Also he's back on his old food, which I'll never change again!

Cheers
As a matter of interest which food was he on and what is he on now? Good to hear all is well with him.

Edited by SPR2 on Monday 19th August 15:09

Rouleur

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Monday 19th August 2013
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Chudley's Senior --> Iams Adult --> Chudley's Senior

The test results may come up with a different explanation, but the vet reckoned that it was cystitis and my Googling showed that this can be caused by a dog's food not suiting it. The timing is spot so it looks likely. The Iams was only a temporary choice originally TBH but he seemed to be doing okay on it until...

SPR2

3,216 posts

220 months

Monday 19th August 2013
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Interesting. I've had Holly on Chudleys Classic chicken and rice all her life but had thought of trying the Senior but wondered if a change would be right for her at her age.On the other hand she really doesn't have any problems and I think the protein is not too high for her. She does have about 5 chunks of meat with it now though and she loves raw vegetables.
I was talking to my old vet(now retired) and he saves any leftover food from their meals and freezes it in portions, even does a chicken carcass overnight in the aga and mashes that up too for his dogs.

Rouleur

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213 months

Tuesday 20th August 2013
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There's probably little point in feeding them a Senior version, but seeing as it's the same brand I doubt whether it would cause any problems. I'd stay as you are if I were you though.