How to train your...cat?
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Legend83

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10,590 posts

253 months

Wednesday 16th September
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Our Florence is a bit of character, and being part ragdoll basically spends much of her life acting like a dog. She is incredibly sociable with humans...to the point it's beginning to become a bit of a problem.

Since we adopted her and Fred, at night time we have tended to lock them in the (fortunately reasonably big) kitchen with the cat flap open so they can come and go as they please without disturbing us while we sleep.

However recently Florence has discovered a penchant for climbing onto the velux roof and either a) climbing in an open window and scaring the crap out of us by jumping on our chest and nuzzling our faces at 2am!!; or b) if the windows are shut, meowing until one of the boys gets woken up and lets her in.

This has resulted in many a sleepless night - not only are we woken but she is also a noisy purrer and likes to sleep as closely tucked into us as she can. Like having a newborn baby but worse!

She can clearly get up onto the roof despite my attempts to erect some defences on the trellis she is using as a jumping platform - the issue may be that she can't work out how to get down...or perhaps she knows perfectly well but is clever enough to know it won't result in human company!

Any thoughts on a) how I might train her to come back down (I have put out treats on the bench that sits below the roof); or b) how I might more effectively stop her climbing on the roof?

The only other solution is to lock them in the kitchen with the cat flap locked which I really want to avoid if I can.


dave123456

4,024 posts

178 months

Wednesday 16th September
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You are aware of the hierarchy of cats, humans and dogs?

I suspect cats are trainable but they tend to just get what they want via their approach.

They broadly sit above the female of the household and then the man followed by the dog. Which is why men and dogs rub along well.

Some unlucky men find themselves bottom of the pile…

Harry H

3,765 posts

187 months

Wednesday 16th September
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Not of any help but we've recently had to shut the cat flap in the utility room at night where the dog and the cat sleep.

Not because of the cat who is usually free to roam but because the dog has taken to sticking his head through it and barking for attention.

Legend83

Original Poster:

10,590 posts

253 months

Wednesday 16th September
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Harry H said:
Not of any help but we've recently had to shut the cat flap in the utility room at night where the dog and the cat sleep.

Not because of the cat who is usually free to roam but because the dog has taken to sticking his head through it and barking for attention.
That at least makes me feel it wouldn't be overly cruel to lock them in the kitchen to at least catch up on a few nights sleep! Although the issue then is she claws at the kitchen door!

ChevronB19

9,209 posts

194 months

Thursday 17th September
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dave123456 said:
You are aware of the hierarchy of cats, humans and dogs?

I suspect cats are trainable but they tend to just get what they want via their approach.

They broadly sit above the female of the household and then the man followed by the dog. Which is why men and dogs rub along well.

Some unlucky men find themselves bottom of the pile
We have 3 cats and 2 dogs.

I can confirm this is the case, but I am definitely ahead of the dogs, who rub along absolutely fine with the cats, sleep next to them etc., but will *always* defer to them.

Unfortunately ‘sleep next to them’ includes them (all 5) plus my wife sleeping in the same bed I desperately and unsuccessfully try to sleep in as well. So maybe I am at the bottom of what is sometimes a literal pile.

s p a c e m a n

12,143 posts

179 months

Thursday 17th September
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Get rid of the trellis?

Our half bengal dhead will sit, stay and give you a high five for food. We cant train him to stop him doing stuff that he wants to do though, he's a cat.

boyse7en

8,224 posts

196 months

Thursday 17th September
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My cat does similar. She jumps up on the roof on one side of the house, walks all the way round in the gutter and then jumps/runs up to hang off the window sill of the dormer window in my bedroom. Then meows loudly to be let in.

Best solution I have found is earplugs to sleep through it, and after a while of her technique not working she has given up and just goes back in through the catflap. If you keep letting her in through the window, it becomes a valid entry point as far as she is concerned. Time for some tough love!

Mobile Chicane

22,024 posts

243 months

Thursday 17th September
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Keep them in at night with a litter tray.

NB: You can't 'train' a cat.

rossub

6,050 posts

221 months

Thursday 17th September
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Better to keep cats in at night anyway for their safety.


Lefty

21,525 posts

233 months

Thursday 17th September
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s p a c e m a n said:
Get rid of the trellis cat and get a dog?

Our half bengal dhead will sit, stay and give you a high five for food. We cant train him to stop him doing stuff that he wants to do though, he's a cat.

alscar

10,033 posts

244 months

Monday 21st September
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I have " trained " our 2 cats to come in for dinner to me whistling them but that only works if a) they can be bothered and b) if they are close enough to hear !
They like going up the willow tree but sometimes the more stupid of them struggles to get down and no amount of encouragement seems to work.
Eventually he sorts it by himself.
My wife's stable cat was feral and just arrived one day and over time became pretty domesticated.
If he was in the yard and a stranger arrived and she was in there he would growl at them.


p4cks

7,543 posts

230 months

Monday 21st September
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Tell the kids to stop letting it in the window at night, it'll soon learn.

And contrary to belief, you can train a cat.

Landlubber

1,718 posts

80 months

Monday 21st September
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p4cks said:
Tell the kids to stop letting it in the window at night, it'll soon learn.

And contrary to belief, you can train a cat.
Nope, the cat trains you, you just dont realise it till it's done.

rossub

6,050 posts

221 months

Monday 21st September
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alscar said:
My wife's stable cat was feral and just arrived one day and over time became pretty domesticated.
If he was in the yard and a stranger arrived and she was in there he would growl at them.
Back when I was a teenager, a feral male cat turned up and in time became friendly with our family. We in turn got him neutered… he became really fat and then disappeared.

Ungrateful bugger confused

Legend83

Original Poster:

10,590 posts

253 months

Tuesday 22nd September
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A few treats laid on the garden table below the roof and she finally worked out she's a nimble cat and can jump the distance - solved! She also didn't like me putting her out the window and shutting it for "practice" so think that has put her off a bit hehe.

DannyScene

8,297 posts

186 months

Thursday 1st October
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s p a c e m a n said:
Our half bengal dhead will sit, stay and give you a high five for food. We cant train him to stop him doing stuff that he wants to do though, he's a cat.
My Mrs has trained our cat to sit and give paw on demand, I didn't know training cats like that was a thing but I suppose with food involved you could probably train any animal within reason

Biker 1

8,608 posts

150 months

Thursday 22nd October
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I visited someone a couple of years back - she had trained her large tabby cat to sit, rollover & present a paw. I'm guessing £hundreds worth of treats were involved in the training process!

myvision

2,131 posts

167 months

Thursday 22nd October
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Growing up we had a Velux window in my bedroom. We had cats and two of them William and Justin had learnt that when kicked out at night if they tapped on my bedroom window i'd let them in.
If i didn't let them in they'd continually tap until i gave in!!!