USA - New entry requirements?
USA - New entry requirements?
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Adenauer

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18,982 posts

266 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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After a bit of advice here please.

We're off to Florida again this summer and a chap was telling me yesterday that there will be some sort of new entry form that needs filling out with credit card details and all sorts of other personal info, from May 1st, ie. tomorrow.

I know about the ESTA forms and can't find any info on this new thing. Is anyone else aware of anything?

TIA smile

5potTurbo

13,687 posts

198 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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I'm not aware of a form that requires credit card details, but a short while ago there was a new piece of U.S legislation that meant you have to advise the U.S authorities even if you're only flying THROUGH U.S airspace, not even landing there!

I'm flying to the U.S on Saturday for work and had to complete the above mentioned form, but I didn't have to provide any credit card details - nor would I.

Original Poster

5,429 posts

206 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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I'm flying to Orlando 2 weeks today and haven't heard anything about it either.

Crafty_

14,198 posts

230 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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We have people at work going back and forth regularly and we haven't heard anything...

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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Credit card details? Sounds like he's been scammed. I bet he got the information in an email.

Nickyboy

6,825 posts

264 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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The ESTA that you have to fill in and pay for can only be paid with a Credit Card according to their website

davepoth

29,395 posts

229 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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Nickyboy said:
The ESTA that you have to fill in and pay for can only be paid with a Credit Card according to their website
That's right, but it's been in place for three years or so...

Deva Link

26,934 posts

275 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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I'm in Florida at the moment and haven't heard of anything. Considering the ESTA programme was soft-launched over about a couple of years any changes in entry requirements would be very well sign-posted.

LooneyTunes

9,486 posts

188 months

Monday 30th April 2012
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davepoth said:
Nickyboy said:
The ESTA that you have to fill in and pay for can only be paid with a Credit Card according to their website
That's right, but it's been in place for three years or so...
Only quite recently needed to pay for it though.

Nickyboy

6,825 posts

264 months

Tuesday 1st May 2012
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Yeah, only since last August i think

GCH

4,141 posts

232 months

Tuesday 1st May 2012
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No changes whatsoever regarding ESTA.

I think your chap was referring to the API (advance passenger information), which is sent by the airlines, and includes your credit card number and other fun stuff.
Without this you cant board a flight to the US. There was a recent court case with some changes to the API agreement, so he may be getting confused with that.

black1

979 posts

227 months

Tuesday 1st May 2012
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GCH said:
No changes whatsoever regarding ESTA.

I think your chap was referring to the API (advance passenger information), which is sent by the airlines, and includes your credit card number and other fun stuff.
Without this you cant board a flight to the US. There was a recent court case with some changes to the API agreement, so he may be getting confused with that.
100% right

Deva Link

26,934 posts

275 months

Tuesday 1st May 2012
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GCH said:
No changes whatsoever regarding ESTA.

I think your chap was referring to the API (advance passenger information), which is sent by the airlines, and includes your credit card number and other fun stuff.
API doesn't include credit card information.

GCH

4,141 posts

232 months

Tuesday 1st May 2012
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Deva Link said:
API doesn't include credit card information.
Not the bit the passenger fills in, but its all in there - confirmed by recent european court ruling on the PNR agreement.

Deva Link

26,934 posts

275 months

Tuesday 1st May 2012
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GCH said:
Not the bit the passenger fills in, but its all in there - confirmed by recent european court ruling on the PNR agreement.
I wonder what percentage of travellers buy their own ticket?

Nickyboy

6,825 posts

264 months

Tuesday 1st May 2012
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Deva Link said:
I wonder what percentage of travellers buy their own ticket?
I've just bought 4 for a group of us so the other 3 will have no information

Deva Link

26,934 posts

275 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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Nickyboy said:
I've just bought 4 for a group of us so the other 3 will have no information
Well, presumeably they'll have your credit card info attached to their PNR.

Amazing if this happens that stolen credit card information is commonly used to buy flights, apparently without any interest in catching offenders.

Adenauer

Original Poster:

18,982 posts

266 months

Wednesday 2nd May 2012
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GCH said:
No changes whatsoever regarding ESTA.

I think your chap was referring to the API (advance passenger information), which is sent by the airlines, and includes your credit card number and other fun stuff.
Without this you cant board a flight to the US. There was a recent court case with some changes to the API agreement, so he may be getting confused with that.
Brilliant, thanks for the info. smile