Vegas. But not Vegas.
Discussion
Me and Mrs Blib are heading over to Las Vegas in February. However, having been there before and not being gamblers, we've decided to use Vegas as a starting point of a one week road trip.
We're looking to head East. Having been lucky enough to have seen a lot of California from San Francisco down to the Mexican border over the years.
The questions we have are where should we strike out for? How far can we reasonable travel in a week? And where should we avoid?
We're not looking to do super big mileage each day. Though we would if there's somethig really interesting to see. Instead, we plan to wander along in a bumbling fashion veering off the main interstates if we see a signpost for a place that looks interesting and we'll stop as and when we fancy. There's always plenty of motels wherever you go.
So, which direction should be point theViper Suburban in?
Is Salt Lake City just a collection of Mormon churches? Or does it have hidden treasures? Could we get to Denver & would it be worth it?
How about Phoenix and Tuscon? Or maybe Albuquerque & New Mexico?
Or Idaho & Yellowstone National Park? Maybe there's a whole area that you know is great but few have heard of.
There's so many places we could visit & that's why I felt it best to suck the fertile brains of the PH massive.
So, given the chance, where would you head off to?
We're looking to head East. Having been lucky enough to have seen a lot of California from San Francisco down to the Mexican border over the years.
The questions we have are where should we strike out for? How far can we reasonable travel in a week? And where should we avoid?
We're not looking to do super big mileage each day. Though we would if there's somethig really interesting to see. Instead, we plan to wander along in a bumbling fashion veering off the main interstates if we see a signpost for a place that looks interesting and we'll stop as and when we fancy. There's always plenty of motels wherever you go.
So, which direction should be point the
Is Salt Lake City just a collection of Mormon churches? Or does it have hidden treasures? Could we get to Denver & would it be worth it?
How about Phoenix and Tuscon? Or maybe Albuquerque & New Mexico?
Or Idaho & Yellowstone National Park? Maybe there's a whole area that you know is great but few have heard of.
There's so many places we could visit & that's why I felt it best to suck the fertile brains of the PH massive.
So, given the chance, where would you head off to?
Blib said:
Thanks for that. What's to see in Utah?
Southern ut and northern az, you cant move for scenery and national parks.South Ut you have zion, Bryce, canyon lands, arches, capital reef, Bridges NM, lake Powell NRA, cedar breaks,
if its just a week, head north out of LV to zion, then Bryce, take the 12 through capital reef and around to moab, from there do arches and canyonlands, head south to monument valley and page, don't miss mexican hat and the goose necks, in page you could take a day trip to rainbow bridge, fantastic scenery on lake powell and the bridge is huge. also in page do a slot canyon tour. From here you can either go over the Colorado at the dam and head back to zion and lv, or take the middle route over Navajo bridge, up through the grand staircase, pop into the grand canyon north rim, and then back through zion and to LV. Final option is to continue south at Navajo bridge to flagstaff and do the south rim of the GC and route 66 then back to LV via hover dam
I doubt you will get much more done in a week to be honest you may struggle with that. you could always cut across the top of lake Powell after capital reef and head to monument valley and page missing out moab but it would be a shame to miss those two parks.
if you head north to SLC and Yellowstone, its doable, you could easily make SLC in a day, another to Jackson hole or west Yellowstone. The big downside is you would probably have to come back the way you went after a couple of days in the park. not much to do in SLC unless you ski and there is snow. Bonneville is a half day trip from SLC and in the summer kennecott mine is open, one of the worlds biggest holes, not been as its shut in the winter when we are in slc.
Edited by ViperDave on Friday 12th October 02:03
sorry just re read your post and your doing it in feb.
Yellowstone will be closed to wheeled vehicles then, not a bad thing but you will have to plan it a bit more. Head to west Yellowstone and do a snow coach tour, they do two, one to old faithful and one to the canyon. they are both fantastic and especially on a sunny winters day (this year we booked one in town for the next day so if you have flexibility you can try and get a sunny day). The canyon tour will be the quietest for obvious reasons and was actually the most enjoyable for us but that may have been due to good weather. you should see plenty of wildlife on both trips, we saw eagles, loads of buffalo elk, coyote both times. if you have time you can drive around from west yellowstone to the north entrance which stays open all year and drive into the Lemar valley where we saw the wolfs and moose after getting stuck behind a herd of buffalo.
west Yellowstone is also snowmobile mecca. there is literally 100's of miles of trail. Hire a couple and get a map and off you go, you can use snowmobiles on all the streets in west Yellowstone other than the main road through the middle. McDonnalds drive through on a snowmobile! you can do the NP on snowmobile but its pretty strict on what you can and cant do so save that for the trails outside the park and take the heated, narrated and comfy (relatively) option of the snow coach (minibus with tracks and ski's where the wheels should be)
at that time of year you can drive up zion canyon and its pretty quiet, in summer its heaving and you have to get a bus. Bryce you will almost have to yourself. some pull outs may be closed due to snow but you can pretty much pull over anywhere its so quiet.
Don't hire a viper, get a 4x4 with M+S tires, also consider picking up snow chains in walmart, $40 insurance for a bad storm in the middle of nowhere, it can get quite bad up by Yellowstone
Yellowstone will be closed to wheeled vehicles then, not a bad thing but you will have to plan it a bit more. Head to west Yellowstone and do a snow coach tour, they do two, one to old faithful and one to the canyon. they are both fantastic and especially on a sunny winters day (this year we booked one in town for the next day so if you have flexibility you can try and get a sunny day). The canyon tour will be the quietest for obvious reasons and was actually the most enjoyable for us but that may have been due to good weather. you should see plenty of wildlife on both trips, we saw eagles, loads of buffalo elk, coyote both times. if you have time you can drive around from west yellowstone to the north entrance which stays open all year and drive into the Lemar valley where we saw the wolfs and moose after getting stuck behind a herd of buffalo.
west Yellowstone is also snowmobile mecca. there is literally 100's of miles of trail. Hire a couple and get a map and off you go, you can use snowmobiles on all the streets in west Yellowstone other than the main road through the middle. McDonnalds drive through on a snowmobile! you can do the NP on snowmobile but its pretty strict on what you can and cant do so save that for the trails outside the park and take the heated, narrated and comfy (relatively) option of the snow coach (minibus with tracks and ski's where the wheels should be)
at that time of year you can drive up zion canyon and its pretty quiet, in summer its heaving and you have to get a bus. Bryce you will almost have to yourself. some pull outs may be closed due to snow but you can pretty much pull over anywhere its so quiet.
Don't hire a viper, get a 4x4 with M+S tires, also consider picking up snow chains in walmart, $40 insurance for a bad storm in the middle of nowhere, it can get quite bad up by Yellowstone
Edited by ViperDave on Friday 12th October 01:48
We did Yosemite for a few days. It's about 9 hours drive. Amazing to see El Capitan and Half Dome.
Red Rock Canyon and Hoover Dam are doable from Vegas itself.
Be tempted to drive to the Grand Canyon and do North Rim. My Mum and Dad did that journey and really enjoyed it.
Have a great time.
TBL
Red Rock Canyon and Hoover Dam are doable from Vegas itself.
Be tempted to drive to the Grand Canyon and do North Rim. My Mum and Dad did that journey and really enjoyed it.
Have a great time.
TBL
Vegas to Denver is going to be getting on for 1,000miles and that's a fair distance in a week. However, you could do something like this:
Las Vegas > Zion NP > Bryce Canyon NP (this is somewhat off the route) > Page AZ > Monument Valley > Arches/Canyonlands NP (Moab) > Denver
or you could do a shorter loop, eg:
Las Vegas > Zion NP > Bryce Canyon NP > Page AZ > Grand Canyon NP > Las Vegas (or maybe Phoenix)
There are a lot of choices in that part of the US!
Las Vegas > Zion NP > Bryce Canyon NP (this is somewhat off the route) > Page AZ > Monument Valley > Arches/Canyonlands NP (Moab) > Denver
or you could do a shorter loop, eg:
Las Vegas > Zion NP > Bryce Canyon NP > Page AZ > Grand Canyon NP > Las Vegas (or maybe Phoenix)
There are a lot of choices in that part of the US!
I've been on PH for almost five years now and the people on here can still amaze me.
I really want to thank you all for taking the time to compose such really thoughtful, considered and detailed replies. I'm rather humbled by them TBH, as mine usually consist of "Yah, boo, sucks".
It's the obvious things that struck me on first reading your posts. Namely that it would be COLD out there. It hadn't really crossed my mind!
The itineries will take a while for us to go through. But, they've given us plenty to think about.
Thank you all very much.
Of course, this being Pistonheads, someone will be along shortly to tell me that what you've written is b
ks and instead that we should be heading in a totally different direction.
I really want to thank you all for taking the time to compose such really thoughtful, considered and detailed replies. I'm rather humbled by them TBH, as mine usually consist of "Yah, boo, sucks".
It's the obvious things that struck me on first reading your posts. Namely that it would be COLD out there. It hadn't really crossed my mind!
The itineries will take a while for us to go through. But, they've given us plenty to think about.
Thank you all very much.
Of course, this being Pistonheads, someone will be along shortly to tell me that what you've written is b
ks and instead that we should be heading in a totally different direction.If you have never done the western US in winter, the thing that may strike you the most is the variation in snow and perhaps the lack of it in places. In the valleys (I 15 corridor for instance) there wont be much unless there is a recent storm. For the most part it looks the same as summer from an air conditioned/heated car. But what you will find is with little elevation gain you will suddenly be surrounded by 10 foot snow drifts and covered roads.
Dealing with the cold isn't too big of a problem, wear layers], if you are doing any kind of activity its important they are man made (polyester) as cotton will hold sweat and you will get cold whereas polyester will wick it away from your body. For the most part regular clothes will do with the addition of a ski jacket, fleece and good gloves and hat (not your grans knitted ones) its important for places like Bryce for you to be wind proof as the 100 mile view means you are pretty exposed, but the ski jacket will take care of that.
When we were in Zion the sun was out and we were in shirt sleeves some of the time, but the jacket was always handy as step into the shade or get into the wind and boy was it chilly.
Also take note that some of the comments have assumed summer travel and you will need to check things are open and accessible. My first post for instance i mentioned the north rim of the GC, forget it in Feb, its closed. South rim will be open though (barring a storm) and it will be quiet, just don't slip over the edge in ice as it will be everywhere.
Yosemite has been mentioned. From LV in Feb forget it. Tioga pass is closed so that 9 hour drive is about 2-3 days via Tahoe or Bakersfield. Granted its nice in the valley in winter as the waterfalls are all flowing, but you need to come at it from the SF side and be prepared for snow, if there is a storm forecast they wont let you in without carrying chains and this is one of the few places i have come close to using them.
Denver i would forget, Denver itself is only a gateway for the Rockie's anyway so no real reason to go that far. As for the Rockies, whilst i haven't been in the colorado area in winter i suspect a lot of the attractions may be better done in the summer due to access and enjoyability in winter. Nb there will still be snow capped peaks in June so you don't gain as much in winter unless you ski.
If you wanted to head south east then from LV you could drop down to cactus national monument on the AZ Mexico boarder, head east to Tucson pop into the Biosphere 2 (kinda interesting), white sands NP, look out for stealth fighters at Alamogordo, on to Roswell and Carlsbad caverns, drop into big bend national park, then turn for home via Albuquerque, Santa Fe and across the I 40 via painted desert and petrified Forrest and Grand canyon. Its a pretty long trip more suited to two weeks, and forget it if you haven't done all the big parks mentioned above.
I have to say though if you want a truly unique winter experience you cant beat Yellowstone in feb. so to wet your appetite
on the canyon tour
steaming geyser's in the distance
brrr
Historic snow coach operated by the NPS
our transport for the old faithful tour
Lemar valley
buffalo jam
in Lemar valley
Follow me leader
Eagle
Its ok i'm warm enough
Snowmobile two tops trail outside west Yellowstone
Bryce canyon
Zion canyon
US 50 Loneliest road in the US
Ps Don't worry about the time spent posting, I absolutely love this area and have done it in all weathers and love talking about it and helping others to see it at its best
Dealing with the cold isn't too big of a problem, wear layers], if you are doing any kind of activity its important they are man made (polyester) as cotton will hold sweat and you will get cold whereas polyester will wick it away from your body. For the most part regular clothes will do with the addition of a ski jacket, fleece and good gloves and hat (not your grans knitted ones) its important for places like Bryce for you to be wind proof as the 100 mile view means you are pretty exposed, but the ski jacket will take care of that.
When we were in Zion the sun was out and we were in shirt sleeves some of the time, but the jacket was always handy as step into the shade or get into the wind and boy was it chilly.
Also take note that some of the comments have assumed summer travel and you will need to check things are open and accessible. My first post for instance i mentioned the north rim of the GC, forget it in Feb, its closed. South rim will be open though (barring a storm) and it will be quiet, just don't slip over the edge in ice as it will be everywhere.
Yosemite has been mentioned. From LV in Feb forget it. Tioga pass is closed so that 9 hour drive is about 2-3 days via Tahoe or Bakersfield. Granted its nice in the valley in winter as the waterfalls are all flowing, but you need to come at it from the SF side and be prepared for snow, if there is a storm forecast they wont let you in without carrying chains and this is one of the few places i have come close to using them.
Denver i would forget, Denver itself is only a gateway for the Rockie's anyway so no real reason to go that far. As for the Rockies, whilst i haven't been in the colorado area in winter i suspect a lot of the attractions may be better done in the summer due to access and enjoyability in winter. Nb there will still be snow capped peaks in June so you don't gain as much in winter unless you ski.
If you wanted to head south east then from LV you could drop down to cactus national monument on the AZ Mexico boarder, head east to Tucson pop into the Biosphere 2 (kinda interesting), white sands NP, look out for stealth fighters at Alamogordo, on to Roswell and Carlsbad caverns, drop into big bend national park, then turn for home via Albuquerque, Santa Fe and across the I 40 via painted desert and petrified Forrest and Grand canyon. Its a pretty long trip more suited to two weeks, and forget it if you haven't done all the big parks mentioned above.
I have to say though if you want a truly unique winter experience you cant beat Yellowstone in feb. so to wet your appetite
on the canyon tour
steaming geyser's in the distance
brrr
Historic snow coach operated by the NPS
our transport for the old faithful tour
Lemar valley
buffalo jam
in Lemar valley
Follow me leader
Eagle
Its ok i'm warm enough
Snowmobile two tops trail outside west Yellowstone
Bryce canyon
Zion canyon
US 50 Loneliest road in the US
Ps Don't worry about the time spent posting, I absolutely love this area and have done it in all weathers and love talking about it and helping others to see it at its best
We did the following as the first part of our honeymoon last month, hiring a bright orange Dodge Challenger from Hertz:
Las Vegas to Zion National Park (1 night)
Zion National Park to Bryce Canyon National Park (1 night)
Bryce Canyon National Park to Lake Powell (2 nights)
Lake Powell to Monument Valley (1 night)
Monument Valley to Grand Canyon (2 nights)
Grand Canyon to Las Vegas
You do need to need to be willing to get up in the morning and get going immediately. The places we only stayed for one night we explored by car when we arrived in the afternoon/early evening and then did a hike the next morning. Lake Powell was two nights to give a little rest to the driving and allow time to play on a jet ski. Grand Canyon was also two nights to finish the road on, to allow a helicopter trip and generally give more time to explore. None of the drives were too long and I’d thoroughly recommend it.
Las Vegas to Zion National Park (1 night)
Zion National Park to Bryce Canyon National Park (1 night)
Bryce Canyon National Park to Lake Powell (2 nights)
Lake Powell to Monument Valley (1 night)
Monument Valley to Grand Canyon (2 nights)
Grand Canyon to Las Vegas
You do need to need to be willing to get up in the morning and get going immediately. The places we only stayed for one night we explored by car when we arrived in the afternoon/early evening and then did a hike the next morning. Lake Powell was two nights to give a little rest to the driving and allow time to play on a jet ski. Grand Canyon was also two nights to finish the road on, to allow a helicopter trip and generally give more time to explore. None of the drives were too long and I’d thoroughly recommend it.
I have an Annual Pass for all the National Parks, valid until Sept next year, which will likely save you a packet. Available for half what I paid for it, so 25 beer tokens.
Also, if booking through Hertz, try booking it through the Irish website in Euros, I saved a third, which was nice.
Also, if booking through Hertz, try booking it through the Irish website in Euros, I saved a third, which was nice.
louiebaby said:
I have an Annual Pass for all the National Parks, valid until Sept next year, which will likely save you a packet. Available for half what I paid for it, so 25 beer tokens.
Also, if booking through Hertz, try booking it through the Irish website in Euros, I saved a third, which was nice.
Thank you for your most generous offer. A PM is winging its way to you.Also, if booking through Hertz, try booking it through the Irish website in Euros, I saved a third, which was nice.
Mrs Blib has perused the thread. She has decreed that rater than head off to the North and the snow, she'd prefer travelling towards the Grand Canyon Natonal Park and from thre southwards to the Phoenix area.
Does anyone have any recommendations for that area?
Red Feather Lodge is about 15 mins outside the Grand Canyon National park, and is acceptable Motel standard if you can't get a place to stay at one of the lodges in the park itself. If you can, do. They all pretty much on the edge of the canyon.
It'll (probably) still be snowy in the Grand Canyon National Park, depending when you go, but not as cold as further North.
If you want to go to the Skywalk and the Indian reservation, an SUV is not required for the unsealed road, but it's helpful. Expect to bend over. They have a great spot to see a different part of the Canyon to the National Park, and they know how to charge. The Skywalk is perhaps worth doing once. I wouldn't do it twice.
As someone mentioned, Zion is worth doing. Perhaps loop North a little out of Vegas, do Zion and something else, before coming into the Grand Canyon National Park. Then go South from there, and come back to take in the Skywalk and the Hoover Dam, then back into Vegas.
Just a thought.
It'll (probably) still be snowy in the Grand Canyon National Park, depending when you go, but not as cold as further North.
If you want to go to the Skywalk and the Indian reservation, an SUV is not required for the unsealed road, but it's helpful. Expect to bend over. They have a great spot to see a different part of the Canyon to the National Park, and they know how to charge. The Skywalk is perhaps worth doing once. I wouldn't do it twice.
As someone mentioned, Zion is worth doing. Perhaps loop North a little out of Vegas, do Zion and something else, before coming into the Grand Canyon National Park. Then go South from there, and come back to take in the Skywalk and the Hoover Dam, then back into Vegas.
Just a thought.
That's fine its your her holiday.
I will say though, going south of I40 in that area is a bit like having the royal box at a top west end show and spending the night sitting in the bar. While the bar is fine if you have already seen the show your kind of missing out otherwise!
South of the grand canyon you have oak creek canyon and sedona, some nice spa hotels, Phoenix is just a city, an access point into the national parks north of the GC. Further south on the boarder is cactus national monument. see my last paragraph on previous post for other things south and east of GC if you have seen the show already.
Note it will still be cold at the grand canyon as its at 7000ft, not as snowy as Yellowstone but there will be ice around, in car parks, on steps to lookouts and lookouts themselves, It will be much quieter and last time we went in winter you could drive the west section of the south rim (not west GC) which in summer you have to get a bus to do.
Flagstaff will also be under snow if there is a storm or there will be big piles of it in the corner of the parking lots, its a mountain town. Early last year some of the best skiing conditions in the SW were at AZ snow bowl in the San Francisco mountains just north of Flagstaff.
What i would say to do and as has already been said is
Day 1 - LV - Zion canyon - Cedar city (or Bryce if you don't mind hotels in the middle of nowhere and then you may make moab on day 2)
Day 2 CC - Bryce canyon - SR12 to escalate (check motels are open in feb its a tiny place)
Day 3 Escalate - Capital reef - Moab
Day 4 Moab - Canyonlands NP - Arches NP - Moab
Day 5 Moab - Monument valley - Page (look at mexican hat, hoki dugway, valley of the gods, goosenecks sp on the way)
Day 6 Page slot canyon tour, Horse shoe bend, detour to Navajo bridge - flagstaff
Day 7 Grand canyon South rim - return to LV
Day 8 if you have flexibility return to LV today
I have planned the route this way and left the GC to last as the attractions will get generally more spectacular as you go which will help to avoid scenery fatigue. If you do the GC first you wont give a st about zion when you get there lol
Nb i haven't done canyonlands or arches in winter so you will need to check accessibility.
One last plug for Yellowstone lol - Other than access to normally bus served sections by car and a sprinkling of snow, reduced crowds, the experiences of the national parks here is largely the same as summer, you will see the same things etc. Yellowstone on the other hand is completely transformed. It is a totally different experience, the only resemblance to a summer visit is the major features like Yellowstone falls and old faithful, but even those are a different character in winter. You will see wildlife you only read about in the park paper in summer. The geysers take on a different personality, often more active with the extra water around. The stark contrast of frozen landscape broken by thermal features or thermal spring fed warm rivers.
yeah its cold but nothing £150 in tk maxx ski section wont fix and your going to need the same gear for the grand canyon
Day 1 drive to SLC
Day 2 Drive to west Yellowstone (i have done lv-wy as two days as i wouldn't want to dive the last bit at night in bad weather)
Day 3 snow coach tour of park.
Day 4 drive to lemar valley - relocate to bozeman
Day 5 get as far south on I15, maybe make cedar city (you can go further as road conditions are more predictable)
Day 6 zion and bryce
Day 7 add a day somewhere above or helicopter ride to Grand Canyon from LV lol
I will say though, going south of I40 in that area is a bit like having the royal box at a top west end show and spending the night sitting in the bar. While the bar is fine if you have already seen the show your kind of missing out otherwise!
South of the grand canyon you have oak creek canyon and sedona, some nice spa hotels, Phoenix is just a city, an access point into the national parks north of the GC. Further south on the boarder is cactus national monument. see my last paragraph on previous post for other things south and east of GC if you have seen the show already.
Note it will still be cold at the grand canyon as its at 7000ft, not as snowy as Yellowstone but there will be ice around, in car parks, on steps to lookouts and lookouts themselves, It will be much quieter and last time we went in winter you could drive the west section of the south rim (not west GC) which in summer you have to get a bus to do.
Flagstaff will also be under snow if there is a storm or there will be big piles of it in the corner of the parking lots, its a mountain town. Early last year some of the best skiing conditions in the SW were at AZ snow bowl in the San Francisco mountains just north of Flagstaff.
What i would say to do and as has already been said is
Day 1 - LV - Zion canyon - Cedar city (or Bryce if you don't mind hotels in the middle of nowhere and then you may make moab on day 2)
Day 2 CC - Bryce canyon - SR12 to escalate (check motels are open in feb its a tiny place)
Day 3 Escalate - Capital reef - Moab
Day 4 Moab - Canyonlands NP - Arches NP - Moab
Day 5 Moab - Monument valley - Page (look at mexican hat, hoki dugway, valley of the gods, goosenecks sp on the way)
Day 6 Page slot canyon tour, Horse shoe bend, detour to Navajo bridge - flagstaff
Day 7 Grand canyon South rim - return to LV
Day 8 if you have flexibility return to LV today
I have planned the route this way and left the GC to last as the attractions will get generally more spectacular as you go which will help to avoid scenery fatigue. If you do the GC first you wont give a s
t about zion when you get there lolNb i haven't done canyonlands or arches in winter so you will need to check accessibility.
One last plug for Yellowstone lol - Other than access to normally bus served sections by car and a sprinkling of snow, reduced crowds, the experiences of the national parks here is largely the same as summer, you will see the same things etc. Yellowstone on the other hand is completely transformed. It is a totally different experience, the only resemblance to a summer visit is the major features like Yellowstone falls and old faithful, but even those are a different character in winter. You will see wildlife you only read about in the park paper in summer. The geysers take on a different personality, often more active with the extra water around. The stark contrast of frozen landscape broken by thermal features or thermal spring fed warm rivers.
yeah its cold but nothing £150 in tk maxx ski section wont fix and your going to need the same gear for the grand canyon
Day 1 drive to SLC
Day 2 Drive to west Yellowstone (i have done lv-wy as two days as i wouldn't want to dive the last bit at night in bad weather)
Day 3 snow coach tour of park.
Day 4 drive to lemar valley - relocate to bozeman
Day 5 get as far south on I15, maybe make cedar city (you can go further as road conditions are more predictable)
Day 6 zion and bryce
Day 7 add a day somewhere above or helicopter ride to Grand Canyon from LV lol
Edited by ViperDave on Saturday 13th October 09:20
Edited by ViperDave on Saturday 13th October 09:22
I have to admit, ViperDave that we're sorely tempted by your depiction of Yellowstone in winter. Thanks everyone for your ideas. We need to get googling to see what's what, accommodation wise.
Anywhere else? (I'm feeling just a bit greedy even asking as you've all been so generous so far. I shall blame Mrs Blib! )
Anywhere else? (I'm feeling just a bit greedy even asking as you've all been so generous so far. I shall blame Mrs Blib!
) Accommodation inside Yellowstone is all run by the government owned xanterra.
http://www.yellowstonenationalparklodges.com/
The ones we had were very good but we were late summer.
Agents will book for you but it will be cheaper if you do it yourself. The communities outside the winter entrances will also have accommodation, a few searches will show them up. There is a section on tripadvisor that can help.
Edit. Check what is open and closed.
http://www.yellowstonenationalparklodges.com/
The ones we had were very good but we were late summer.
Agents will book for you but it will be cheaper if you do it yourself. The communities outside the winter entrances will also have accommodation, a few searches will show them up. There is a section on tripadvisor that can help.
Edit. Check what is open and closed.
I've been planning to do a similar Utah/Arizona trip in a few years with the following itinerary.
Stop No of Nights
Las Vegas 1
Zion 1
Tropic 2
Torrey 1
Moab 3
Monumnet Valley 1
Flagstaff 2
Las Vegas 2
It's a round trip of about 1200 miles, I have a Tyre (http://www.tyretotravel.com/) Garmin route file, pm me if you would like it.
Stop No of Nights
Las Vegas 1
Zion 1
Tropic 2
Torrey 1
Moab 3
Monumnet Valley 1
Flagstaff 2
Las Vegas 2
It's a round trip of about 1200 miles, I have a Tyre (http://www.tyretotravel.com/) Garmin route file, pm me if you would like it.
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