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DoubleSix

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12,572 posts

207 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Moorgate to be precise.

Looking at potentially having to relocate the OH and two young kids from Bristol to within sensible commuting distance for a job opportunity.

Would really appreciate some suggestions. Need to stay west side to enable visits back to family. I only really know the obvious places like Reading, but I'm sure there are nicer locales with good links in.

Just want to be able to get home in time to see kids before bed.

Thanks in advance!

tomsugden

2,479 posts

259 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Fleet is on a fast train line into Waterloo, and nearby is a beautiful small town called Hartley Wintney. It has been voted the best place to live in the UK several times.

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

188 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Assuming you are driving back for family visits, balancing both requirements wouldn't you be better off north of London near the M25?

Smiler.

11,752 posts

261 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Although a horrible journey, the GWR fast service to Reading & beyond is just that but pay big £££s for it.

I don't know the Crossrail timetable (as in services coming online) but might be worth a look - my understanding is that there's no gain to Paddington but there is in getting further east.

This article might be useful to you.

Good luck with it.

sjg

7,686 posts

296 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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The trouble with coming in from the west is that it's still a slog to get to Moorgate from Paddington. Adds time, busy at peak, and the more hops needed to get there, the more potential for things to go wrong.

http://www.commutefrom.com is useful for this, there's places that are further out that can be quicker/easier and vice versa. Personally I much prefer a commute based around a single train journey with a walkable distance at the other end.

hairyben

8,516 posts

214 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Where we are in enfield has a choice of two trainlines into liverpool street or moorgate and the trains a bit less terrible than the tube. Enfield town lines set to become part of crossrail 2. Alternatively many towns in herts are nice and have direct rail.

condor

8,837 posts

279 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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The Thameslink line from Bedford used to run through to Moorgate, don't know if that is still the case. It's only a small number of stops on the Northern line from Kings Cross/St. Pancras ( think it's 3). That would give you Harpenden and St Albans as reasonable commutable areas too.

davepoth

29,395 posts

230 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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DoubleSix said:
Moorgate to be precise.

Looking at potentially having to relocate the OH and two young kids from Bristol to within sensible commuting distance for a job opportunity.

Would really appreciate some suggestions. Need to stay west side to enable visits back to family. I only really know the obvious places like Reading, but I'm sure there are nicer locales with good links in.

Just want to be able to get home in time to see kids before bed.

Thanks in advance!
I'd junk the idea of staying west if I were you - an extra hour once every few months vs. an extra hour every day really is a bit silly.

Hertfordshire is nice - somewhere like Hatfield is only an hour out of Liverpool Street too.

essdaytwelve

5,068 posts

242 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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UpTheIron

4,058 posts

299 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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davepoth said:
I'd junk the idea of staying west if I were you - an extra hour once every few months vs. an extra hour every day really is a bit silly.

Hertfordshire is nice - somewhere like Hatfield is only an hour out of Liverpool Street too.
I would agree with looking to get further round the M25. Getting to Moorgate from Paddington or Marylebone is "just" a tube journey without any changes, but it is a slog. I did similar journeys on and off for years.

I now live in Hertfordshire, it's a much shorter commute time-wise and the ticket price is less too.

Hatfield doesn't go into Liverpool Street, but does go direct into Kings Cross, or Moorgate. About 25 and 40 minutes respectively.



ferrariF50lover

1,834 posts

257 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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It's 2016, we have modern, efficient, high speed cars which will whisk you from anywhere to anywhere in comfort and style. Being an extra 50 miles east will make bugger all difference to your getting back to Bristol to see her mum (it's always her mum. Why can't grown women function without seeing their Godforsaken mothers every 15 minutes?)

My suggestion is irrelevant of that. I spent my formative years in leafy Hampshire, such that my father might commute by train into Waterloo. That's where I'd recommend. Haslemere, Liphook, Petersfield etc, all on the Portsmouth-Waterloo line and all perfectly lovely places to raise children. A number of excellent schools, very little crime or fear of crime, prettier girls from better stock than in Reading or bloody Swindon. Plus A3/M25/M4 or, if you prefer, A3/M3/A303 is a simple enough way to get back to Brizzle.

f1nn

2,694 posts

223 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Reading and the surrounding areas are the obvious answer, I live in the Winnersh/Wokingham area and I can be in Paddington within an hour of closing my door behind me.

This will save you maybe 15 to 20 hours per week to spend with your family, there are some wonderful areas to live, Winnersh/Wokingham always come in the top 5 best places to arise children in the country, if you believe all of that of course, and it's easy for you to get back to the Bristol area.



Edited by f1nn on Sunday 24th January 12:27

Chrisgr31

14,294 posts

286 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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With Thameslink and Crossrail coming on stream properly in the next couple of years you have a huge variety of choice. Thameslink no longer runs through Moorgate but Farringdon is about 10 minutes walk away so it depends where at Moorgate the job opportunity is.

Equally dont forget that offices can move. I have been working back in London for 8 years for 2 different employers, in that time I have worked in 5 different offices due to office moves, and we are considering moving again in 2 years time.

Moorgate is a short walk from Liverpool St, longer walk from Farringdon, 15/20 minutes walk from Cannon St and London Bridge.

Personally I would be seeking to avoid the tube, I have to use it occasionally but would rather not. What are the options for working from home one or two days a week?

Don't forget to take into account the door 2 door time. It takes me 2 hours door 2 door, but 15/20 minutes of that is due to the need to get to the station early to get a parking space or seat on the train! All adds to journey time

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,039 posts

266 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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St Albans is eye wateringly expensive though, as nice as it is

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

243 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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f1nn said:
Reading and the surrounding areas are the obvious answer, I live in the Winnersh/Wokingham area and I can be in Paddington within an hour of closing my door behind me.
Pity he isn't working in Paddington then.

OP, I hope the new job is worth it. I'd rather stay in the West Country, commuting into London on public transport is hell on earth.


gashead1105

626 posts

184 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Moved to Colchester 3 years ago but before that lived in Palmers Green for 5 years. Not the best area of North London, but not the worst either. Train into Moorgate is 20 mins and regular, although rubbish when it snows, 35 quid for a taxi from Moorgate if you are working late. High street had some nice restaurants and cafes. Prices have gone up a lot in the past 3 years but not too bad compared to other nearby areas. 2 hours door to door to Bristol if you leave at the right time of day. It's over 3 from Colchester for me now, which means I don't see my parents as often as I used too...

f1nn

2,694 posts

223 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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CaptainSlow said:
Pity he isn't working in Paddington then.

OP, I hope the new job is worth it. I'd rather stay in the West Country, commuting into London on public transport is hell on earth.
Yes it is.

However, rather than be a dick, I thought I'd try and offer some experience on a scenario that the OP has suggested as a possibility. I'm sure that the OP has worked out that Moorgate is but a few tube stations away from Paddington.

I'm also fairly confident that the new job is worth the OP up rooting his family for hence him making the thread, but I'm sure he'll take your constructive advice onboard.

pbg2770

4,271 posts

135 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Paddington is a ball-ache as it is really badly positioned to get to the City. When I use Paddington, I walk to Ladbroke Grove and get the central line.

I live somewhere in between the Reading - Paddington and Basingstoke - Waterloo lines and I often switch between them to avoid feeling like a cog in a machine, The beauty of Waterloo is that you can walk to the city and commuting to London without the tube is waaaay less stressful.

f1nn

2,694 posts

223 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Yep, depending on where I need to be in the city I also use the Waterloo train. Added bonus is that I can usually get a seat and use the hour and a quarter or so each way to get the computer on and catch up on work.

However, the OP needs to be at Moorgate, which is a bit more of a ball ache to get to from Waterloo IMO.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

243 months

Sunday 24th January 2016
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Well, it's at least another 20 minutes each way on to the commute so adds up.

Also, making the point that commuting in London isn't great isn't non-constructive, especially as it would appear that family time is important.