Dual citizenship - is it worth having - have you done it?
Dual citizenship - is it worth having - have you done it?
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981Boxess

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11,881 posts

279 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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Although born and living in the UK I have in theory the possibility of adding another citizenship to my UK one relatively easily (Italian parent).

Without getting into a debate over where this country is heading, or why we might want to leave, I think it might not be a bad idea to having a Plan B for the future, just in case the UK no longer appeals. If we left the UK it would probably only be for somewhere else in Europe that I prefer. What I want is the choice to be able move freely should I want to and if nothing else Brexit has proved that can very easily be lost or taken away.

Not too focused on the work/kids angle or how to pay for it, that would be covered, only interested in the mechanics of maintaining two citizenships.

So my question to anyone who has either done the same or has looked into it, what are the benefits or disadvantages of having two passports/dual citizenships?

Many thanks in advance for any input

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KAgantua

5,051 posts

152 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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Do it - ive got an Irish passport

vixen1700

27,460 posts

291 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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I've really got to get my arse into gear and apply for an Irish passport (father was Northern Irish), but I totally switch off when it comes to beaurocracy, form-filling and red-tape. Plus the research into actually starting the process.

Add in a dose of procrastination and it's a recipe for disaster. frown


i4got

5,913 posts

99 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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Make sure you're aware of the recent (2024) changes in Italian citizenship rules.


981Boxess

Original Poster:

11,881 posts

279 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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KAgantua said:
Do it - ive got an Irish passport
Assuming you have both Irish (EU) and UK passports do you have both EU and UK citizenships?

981Boxess

Original Poster:

11,881 posts

279 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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i4got said:
Make sure you're aware of the recent (2024) changes in Italian citizenship rules.
Which are?


Batfoy

1,514 posts

27 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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My Doris has dual citizenship and bar the occasional border control glitch I'd say it's a definite advantage having an EU passport as well as UK. We want to live/retire overseas eventually and now that we're not EU it's a pain in the arse for me. Not insurmountable but still just makes it more difficult than it should be.

i4got

5,913 posts

99 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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981Boxess said:
i4got said:
Make sure you're aware of the recent (2024) changes in Italian citizenship rules.
Which are?
Prior - a child could get citizenship if at birth their parent was Italian.

That has changed so that the parent has to remain Italian citizen till the child reaches 18.

So eg if your parent naturalised to another country when you were 2 you still could get Italian citizenship. Now the parent has to remain Italian citizenship until you're 18.

https://www.sentiremedia.com/show/anewlifeinitaly/...

https://italylawfirms.com/en/the-minor-issue-and-i...

It looks a bit complicated so I'm just suggesting its worth looking into if you'd always based your eligibility on pre 2024 rules.

Rushjob

2,262 posts

279 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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981Boxess said:
i4got said:
Make sure you're aware of the recent (2024) changes in Italian citizenship rules.
Which are?
This HERE explains the current position for you.

Rushjob

2,262 posts

279 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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As to the disadvantages of having two passports, the only downside I'm aware of is having to pay for both two passports at renewal and IIRC the UK Passport agency will want you to send your other country passport in along with your UK one when you renew your UK one

RichFN2

4,137 posts

200 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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I personally think it's worth having an EU and UK passport if you can.

My neighbours are Romanian with UK citizenship, entering America is a PITA with a Romanian one and I suspect the UK passport is a better one to have overall. However they use the Romanian passports more often in Europe.


Deep Thought

38,349 posts

218 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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Do it. Gives you options for the future.

We have UK and Irish passports. Opens doors for where we can retire to.

Bill

56,851 posts

276 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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AIUI for Italy it's also a lot more straightforward if your relative is male as well. Loads more legal hoops if they're female.

Chucklehead

2,847 posts

229 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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I've got UK and Irish. I travel a lot with work and the EU passport has allowed me to get connections I'd otherwise have missed.

I only wish I'd got it before my kids were born as then they'd automatically be entitled to apply for one. I'll now need to enter my birth on the Irish foreign register and then they can apply for one.

Completely ignoring all the benefits for ME, it's also about giving my kids options for the future.

Mr Magooagain

12,404 posts

191 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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Rushjob said:
As to the disadvantages of having two passports, the only downside I'm aware of is having to pay for both two passports at renewal and IIRC the UK Passport agency will want you to send your other country passport in along with your UK one when you renew your UK one
I’ve recently renewed my Uk passport and only needed to send a copy of my Irish passport. Every single page though!

Mr Magooagain

12,404 posts

191 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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vixen1700 said:
I've really got to get my arse into gear and apply for an Irish passport (father was Northern Irish), but I totally switch off when it comes to beaurocracy, form-filling and red-tape. Plus the research into actually starting the process.

Add in a dose of procrastination and it's a recipe for disaster. frown

You should get on with it before things change and as you are born an Irish citizen then it’s so easy for you presuming you have the same surname as your father it really is the easiest way to get one.

popegregory

1,865 posts

155 months

Saturday 21st December 2024
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KAgantua said:
Do it - ive got an Irish passport
My wife’s dad is Irish. If my boys get an Irish passport am I right in thinking that they then get all the live where you want benefits back we’ve just voted to take away from them?

981Boxess

Original Poster:

11,881 posts

279 months

Sunday 22nd December 2024
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i4got said:
Prior - a child could get citizenship if at birth their parent was Italian.

That has changed so that the parent has to remain Italian citizen till the child reaches 18.

So eg if your parent naturalised to another country when you were 2 you still could get Italian citizenship. Now the parent has to remain Italian citizenship until you're 18.

https://www.sentiremedia.com/show/anewlifeinitaly/...

https://italylawfirms.com/en/the-minor-issue-and-i...

It looks a bit complicated so I'm just suggesting its worth looking into if you'd always based your eligibility on pre 2024 rules.
Thanks for the explanation, I am ok there.

981Boxess

Original Poster:

11,881 posts

279 months

Sunday 22nd December 2024
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Rushjob said:
This HERE explains the current position for you.
Thanks for that.

981Boxess

Original Poster:

11,881 posts

279 months

Sunday 22nd December 2024
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Deep Thought said:
Gives you options for the future.

We have UK and Irish passports. Opens doors for where we can retire to.
That is the current thinking, I may never use it but as I said above it is a Plan B and if the option of being able to do it is ever removed then I will have lost the opportunity.

Other than whatever it costs I cannot see any downside based on what has been posted here.