BA, the new Ryanair?

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J500ANT

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3,101 posts

254 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8274200.stm

British Airways passengers may have to pay to choose their seats before they travel, the airline has said.


Now I dont fly a lot, so it doesnt affect me, but yesterday in the Daily Mail there was an article about different BA cuts, including pulling the staff meail subsidy.

Is BA the new Ryanair with all these cuts and new charges?

Puggit

49,126 posts

263 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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BA are in deep doo-doo, so need to claw back money any way they can!

fadeaway

1,463 posts

241 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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I'm a bit torn by this. BA is a full service airline, they should therefore not be charging for extra, and this does make them sound like EasyJet/RyanAir.

If they need to charge more, then they should put their prices up.

On the other hand, this isn't something that's essential, you won't be forced to pay it. I also think that it's probably a service that's already available to all/some BA Executive club members, so you're being offered a pay to buy into some of those perks. That to be sells it better than how it's been presented. But then airlines are cagey about the perks of joining their loyalty schemes!

john_p

7,073 posts

265 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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I understood this as you can book for free within 24 hrs, but to book seats earlier than that, you need to pay this new fee.

Silver993tt

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254 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Also, if you are a frequent flyer (Executive Club member), these charges don't apply.

The new scheme is allowing seats to be selected when you book which is new. At the moment unless you are a frequent flyer, you can only choose a seat within 24 hrs of your flight. From October 7th, anyone who isn't a frequent flyer can reserve a seat when they book, up to 10 days in advance.

Basically, it's a new service that is being charged for which doesn't already exist at the moment.

You can still choose a sit when checking in at the airport free of charge or 24 hrs before hand.

Low cost airlines such as Ryan Air/Easy Jet don't let you book a specific seat full stop.

Edited by Silver993tt on Friday 25th September 13:24

bazking69

8,620 posts

205 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Also, if you book through an employee of BA like we do I doubt the charges will be imposed.

cjs

11,226 posts

266 months

Friday 25th September 2009
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Virgin have been charging extra for exit seats for years, it's nothing new.

As said above, it only counts if you want to reserve a seat before the standard 24hr online check-in. So it's an extra service that they are charging for not the existing service. As usual the media are blowing this up.


uuf361

3,158 posts

237 months

Saturday 26th September 2009
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I suspect BA will stop giving out free drinks on all sort haul next - an easy way to save quite a bit of cash quickly.

casbar

1,112 posts

230 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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Silver993tt said:
Also, if you are a frequent flyer (Executive Club member), these charges don't apply.

The new scheme is allowing seats to be selected when you book which is new. At the moment unless you are a frequent flyer, you can only choose a seat within 24 hrs of your flight. From October 7th, anyone who isn't a frequent flyer can reserve a seat when they book, up to 10 days in advance.

Basically, it's a new service that is being charged for which doesn't already exist at the moment.

You can still choose a sit when checking in at the airport free of charge or 24 hrs before hand.

Low cost airlines such as Ryan Air/Easy Jet don't let you book a specific seat full stop.

Edited by Silver993tt on Friday 25th September 13:24
The charges will not apply if you a Gold card Exec club member, silver and blue will have to pay. Now if your flying Club an extra £60 to choose a seat on booking is expensive, or you can take pot luck 24hrs before you fly.

Silver993tt

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254 months

Sunday 27th September 2009
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casbar said:
The charges will not apply if you a Gold card Exec club member, silver and blue will have to pay. Now if your flying Club an extra £60 to choose a seat on booking is expensive, or you can take pot luck 24hrs before you fly.
Actutally, that's not quite correct. Gold & Silver card holders get the service free of charge as do anyone booking fully flexible tickets in J/C/W/Y classes.

GlenMH

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258 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Puggit said:
BA are in deep doo-doo, so need to claw back money any way they can!
Yup - basicly a skint pension fund that happens to have an airline to support it.

casbar

1,112 posts

230 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Silver993tt said:
casbar said:
The charges will not apply if you a Gold card Exec club member, silver and blue will have to pay. Now if your flying Club an extra £60 to choose a seat on booking is expensive, or you can take pot luck 24hrs before you fly.
Actutally, that's not quite correct. Gold & Silver card holders get the service free of charge as do anyone booking fully flexible tickets in J/C/W/Y classes.
Not according to BA customer service, who I spoke too today, they told me, Gold and Premium card holders will get the service free. Not sure about the flexible ticket holders though, I do know if you book a Club ticket and your not a Gold Card holder, then its 24hrs before, again not sure about fully flexible tickets, I normally just book the best fare available.

Silver993tt

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254 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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casbar said:
Silver993tt said:
casbar said:
The charges will not apply if you a Gold card Exec club member, silver and blue will have to pay. Now if your flying Club an extra £60 to choose a seat on booking is expensive, or you can take pot luck 24hrs before you fly.
Actutally, that's not quite correct. Gold & Silver card holders get the service free of charge as do anyone booking fully flexible tickets in J/C/W/Y classes.
Not according to BA customer service, who I spoke too today, they told me, Gold and Premium card holders will get the service free. Not sure about the flexible ticket holders though, I do know if you book a Club ticket and your not a Gold Card holder, then its 24hrs before, again not sure about fully flexible tickets, I normally just book the best fare available.
Well, that's not according to their website when you log in as an Executive card member. I'd trust the website more than someone on the end of the phone.

Silver993tt

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254 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Those that don't have to pay anything are, as quoted from the BA website:

"Gold and Silver Executive Club members, oneworld™ Emerald and Sapphire equivalents, and other passengers on the same booking "

- "FIRST Passengers "

- "Customers holding fully flexible tickets booked in J/C/W/Y booking classes"

- "Travelling with infants "

- "Customers with additional needs"

"The above customers can choose their seat at the time of booking and change at any time until they have checked in."




casbar

1,112 posts

230 months

Monday 28th September 2009
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Probably right, the website is more likely to be correct. The issue, though is, I have booked a very expensive holiday with BA, paid for Premium Economy, but this doesn't allow me to pick a seat until 24hrs before we fly.

I'm no longer a Silver card member as I now work for a company who will not pay BA fares to fly their staff. So for us poor saps that don't have Sivler or Gold cards, its pay up or take pot luck.

Wonder how long before Virgin follow BA's example.

LeoSayer

7,544 posts

259 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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I'd happily pay an extra £50 for guaranteed extra leg room.

cjs

11,226 posts

266 months

Tuesday 29th September 2009
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casbar said:
Probably right, the website is more likely to be correct. The issue, though is, I have booked a very expensive holiday with BA, paid for Premium Economy, but this doesn't allow me to pick a seat until 24hrs before we fly.

I'm no longer a Silver card member as I now work for a company who will not pay BA fares to fly their staff. So for us poor saps that don't have Sivler or Gold cards, its pay up or take pot luck.

Wonder how long before Virgin follow BA's example.
You currently can check in and choose a seat 24hrs in advance, so nothing is changing. Soon you will have the benefit of paying an extra fee if you want to choose your seat earlier, the choice is yours.

Virgin already charge for exit seats and legroom seats, they have been doing so for years.