AWOL impacts / time inside
Discussion
A friend of mine's 19 year old grandson signed-up for 4 years infantry (joined when 18). He completed his basic training (6 months?) and joined his regiment, seemingly very happy. 3 months later he went AWOL and won't say why though there was an incident involving writing off a car theat was on HP and probably not insured and he fell in love with his first proper girlfriend.
There have been several contacts and visits from various people who have told his mother that they will give him time to come back on his own but after a year they will get the police to arrest him, the army would then pick him up and send him to army prision.
My questions:
Will they come for him?
HOw long will he get "inside"?
What will be the long term effects? Will he have a record?
Thanks
There have been several contacts and visits from various people who have told his mother that they will give him time to come back on his own but after a year they will get the police to arrest him, the army would then pick him up and send him to army prision.
My questions:
Will they come for him?
HOw long will he get "inside"?
What will be the long term effects? Will he have a record?
Thanks
Shoestringracer said:
A friend of mine's 19 year old grandson signed-up for 4 years infantry (joined when 18). He completed his basic training (6 months?) and joined his regiment, seemingly very happy. 3 months later he went AWOL and won't say why though there was an incident involving writing off a car theat was on HP and probably not insured and he fell in love with his first proper girlfriend.
There have been several contacts and visits from various people who have told his mother that they will give him time to come back on his own but after a year they will get the police to arrest him, the army would then pick him up and send him to army prision.
My questions:
Will they come for him?
HOw long will he get "inside"?
What will be the long term effects? Will he have a record?
Thanks
Yes
Generally as long as he was Awol for, if he goes back asap might get away without a visit to the glasshouse. They will help hm as far as they can, but he will take a severe b
king. The longer he leaves it, the worse it will get, get it sorted asap!!
He will have a record, but if he keeps his nose clean then it won't harm him in the long term.
12 years in the RAF, HTH
There have been several contacts and visits from various people who have told his mother that they will give him time to come back on his own but after a year they will get the police to arrest him, the army would then pick him up and send him to army prision.
My questions:
Will they come for him?
HOw long will he get "inside"?
What will be the long term effects? Will he have a record?
Thanks
Yes
Generally as long as he was Awol for, if he goes back asap might get away without a visit to the glasshouse. They will help hm as far as they can, but he will take a severe b
king. The longer he leaves it, the worse it will get, get it sorted asap!!He will have a record, but if he keeps his nose clean then it won't harm him in the long term.
12 years in the RAF, HTH
Serious "Bird" is not unknown.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/awol-so...
He needs to get in touch with a lawyer who specialises in this ASAP. If he can get back in without going to court it would be best for all concerned; then he should probably go sick with a stress related mental ilness and hopefully be discharged.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/awol-so...
He needs to get in touch with a lawyer who specialises in this ASAP. If he can get back in without going to court it would be best for all concerned; then he should probably go sick with a stress related mental ilness and hopefully be discharged.
They are a bit more sympathetic to AWOL merchants now than they used to be, depending on the length of time AWOL / the reason and if the unit he belongs to was about to go on operational duties when he went AWOL, if they were on a predeployment notice it can be classed as desertion, which is a more serious offence (they will have been briefed if this was the case).
He can expect up to 28 days in the Regimental Guardroom (used to be a day in the clink for a day AWOL) or a spell in MCTC (Military Correctional Training Centre) in Colchester if he is sentenced to longer than 28 days. You'll generally only get MCTC if they want to keep him in (its primarily a retraining facility). If its clear he isn't worth keeping or its detrimental to him or the army to keep him in he could be discharged (after a short stint in jail).
The Army won't come looking for him. We used to get lads handed over to us by the BIB, not sure if they still bother, but they were generally caught by accident (if they come to the attention of the BIB for other reasons and their name flags up), had one guy been AWOL for 6 years when he was sent back to us.
Suggest he hands himself in. It won't be a civil offence and will stay on his military record. He can PVR or apply to be discharged from there. He just won't get a good discharge report. If as you mentioned he did something that might be the root cause before he went AWOL it might be worth seeking legal advice first. If he doesn't sort it out now, it'll just come up again at a later time.
He can expect up to 28 days in the Regimental Guardroom (used to be a day in the clink for a day AWOL) or a spell in MCTC (Military Correctional Training Centre) in Colchester if he is sentenced to longer than 28 days. You'll generally only get MCTC if they want to keep him in (its primarily a retraining facility). If its clear he isn't worth keeping or its detrimental to him or the army to keep him in he could be discharged (after a short stint in jail).
The Army won't come looking for him. We used to get lads handed over to us by the BIB, not sure if they still bother, but they were generally caught by accident (if they come to the attention of the BIB for other reasons and their name flags up), had one guy been AWOL for 6 years when he was sent back to us.
Suggest he hands himself in. It won't be a civil offence and will stay on his military record. He can PVR or apply to be discharged from there. He just won't get a good discharge report. If as you mentioned he did something that might be the root cause before he went AWOL it might be worth seeking legal advice first. If he doesn't sort it out now, it'll just come up again at a later time.
monkey gland said:
Don't you get a dishonourable discharge for testing positive for drugs? May be worth doing a bit of pot (or coke if it's only class A's) and getting caught?
No idea if that would work but has to be preferable to prison.
Worst advice, ever.... You would get an even longer sentance for that than AWOL.No idea if that would work but has to be preferable to prison.
monkey gland said:
Don't you get a dishonourable discharge for testing positive for drugs? May be worth doing a bit of pot (or coke if it's only class A's) and getting caught?
No idea if that would work but has to be preferable to prison.
My friends younger brother joined the army about 3 years ago. He said the amount of lads doing this yo get discharged is becoming more and more popular.No idea if that would work but has to be preferable to prison.
FeatherZ said:
tt is my first thought, but have to feel sorry for him, its a young age to have such a change in life, a lot of weight on his shoulders, but he's stupid for going awol.
He may have had very good reasons for going AWOL. Going out of the country so that he got a passport check on the way back in was quite daft though. t is my first thought, but have to feel sorry for him, its a young age to have such a change in life, a lot of weight on his shoulders, but he's stupid for going awol.Shoestringracer said:
By total co-incidence they picked him up today as he re-entered the country after a holiday (with his girlfriend and her parents, only the girlfriend knew he was AWOL.)
knowing absolutely nothing about the military way of life, but do the units have family liaison functions? May be worth a relative linking up with the unit to see if they can mitigate some of the damage / act as an advocate? Disclaimer: this could be very bad adviceElroy Blue said:
Colchester has one of the lowest reoffending rates of any prison in the country. There's a reason for that! Nobody ever wants to go back.
i joined the RAF mid 80's, the RAF Regiment were our "instructors" at Swinderby. Horrible scary folks to us cadets, the one thing they repeated was don't do anything that'll result in Colchester. They hated taking folk there.Best of luck to the OP's relative but I can't say I have much sympathy
If he's sent to prison by a military court for a crime he didn't commit, he could promptly escape from a maximum security stockade to the Los Angeles underground. Then, still wanted by the government, he could survive as a soldier of fortune. If someone had a problem, if no one else could help, and if they could find him, maybe they could hire the AWOL-Team.
db said:
Elroy Blue said:
Colchester has one of the lowest reoffending rates of any prison in the country. There's a reason for that! Nobody ever wants to go back.
i joined the RAF mid 80's, the RAF Regiment were our "instructors" at Swinderby. Horrible scary folks to us cadets, the one thing they repeated was don't do anything that'll result in Colchester. They hated taking folk there.Best of luck to the OP's relative but I can't say I have much sympathy
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