How can Space go on "Forever"? Don't get it.. .Explain pls.
How can Space go on "Forever"? Don't get it.. .Explain pls.
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onyx39

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11,349 posts

172 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Right, we all know how big the earth is, beyond the earth is our Galaxy etc etc etc.

You ask the question of how "big" space is, and the general answer is "infinite"... cannot grasp this...

jimmyV8

687 posts

229 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Was told by my sixth form Physics teacher, it was just something you have to accept.........

Im sure there is a more technical answer however!

Snowboy

8,028 posts

173 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Because if it stopped there would need to be some sort of solid edge that is was not possible to go through.
Then we would have to ask what was beyond that – and we would try and go through it.

It’s just as mind baffling to presume the universe is not infinite as it is to presume it is.

StottyZr

6,860 posts

185 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Snowboy said:
Because if it stopped there would need to be some sort of solid edge that is was not possible to go through.
Then we would have to ask what was beyond that – and we would try and go through it.
The Truman Show scratchchin

Megaflow

10,895 posts

247 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Snowboy said:
Because if it stopped there would need to be some sort of solid edge that is was not possible to go through.
Then we would have to ask what was beyond that – and we would try and go through it.

It’s just as mind baffling to presume the universe is not infinite as it is to presume it is.
Which brings up the possibility of Men in Black type scenarios, that we could actually be inside something much bigger? In which case does that mean we could have life inside us? It's a real mind scrambler isn't it...

Ozzie Osmond

21,189 posts

268 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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onyx39 said:
You ask the question of how "big" space is, and the general answer is "infinite"... cannot grasp this...
Imagine a straight line drawn on the ground about 50 metres long. Now walk from one end to the other and back again. Easy.

Then draw another line about 50 metres long, this time drawn as a curve with one end connected to the other. Yes, a circle. Now walk from one end of the line to the other....

Vocal Minority

8,582 posts

174 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Well Einsteinian physics, basically, has the universe as curved...

So if you keep going, you eventually arrive back where you started

80sboy

452 posts

179 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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I've read the the Universe is doughnut shaped, if you were to travel in the same direction you'd eventually end up where you started. How that works I don't know... Why do you have to conform to the doughnut? You're not actually going straight if you are going in circles? What's outside of the doughnut? A yum yum is straight, does this mean that there are alternative universes that aren't circular?

RobCrezz

7,892 posts

230 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Not sure how to answer so...


HD Adam

5,155 posts

206 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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The answer is 42.

Big Rod

6,257 posts

238 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Vocal Minority said:
Well Einsteinian physics, basically, has the universe as curved...

So if you keep going, you eventually arrive back where you started
I thought that up when I was 7. I hadn't heard of Einstein then either.

Hudson

1,857 posts

209 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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I thought Mr Hawking said it was constantly expanding, and will eventually run out of oomph (needs a remap), and thus will contract and collapse on itself, killing us all and causing another big bang?


Or have i just butchered years of scientific research

ArosaMike

4,592 posts

233 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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You have to remember that we only 'see' a small fraction of the actual universe. Our eye's can only see a small part of the electromagnetic spectrum, and our ears the same. Everything you perceive as normal is effectively just normal on earth. If you try and apply our 'normal' boundaries (i.e. solid, liquid, gas etc) to the rest of the universe it doesn't really work. It's totally natural to do so as we tend to understand things through association, but you have to think outside the box, for want of a better expression, to start to grasp the actual reality of the universe.

As has already been said, if the universe wasn't infinite, there would need to be an end. This itself is actually far harder to justify/quantify than no end. Questions like, what's beyond and why is it there are much, much harder to answer and also completely outside all known physics.

TomN94

2,401 posts

180 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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I always think, our galaxy, the milky way only has "one" planet with life on it, is there in other galaxies another planet with life on it, and are they more or less advanced than our life?

ArosaMike

4,592 posts

233 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Hudson said:
I thought Mr Hawking said it was constantly expanding, and will eventually run out of oomph (needs a remap), and thus will contract and collapse on itself, killing us all and causing another big bang?


Or have i just butchered years of scientific research
It is one of many theories, but not a theorum (a theory that has been proven beyond all doubt). There are also other widely circulating theories about all of time and space actually existing simultaneously, and what we perceive as real is in fact, nothing more than a reflection of what is really there. Very, very hard to understand, and also equally as much of a stab in the dark as Hawkings theory!

NavSat

324 posts

173 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Thinking about this made my brain melt and then i went cross-eyed wobble

Sausages.

ArosaMike

4,592 posts

233 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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TomN94 said:
I always think, our galaxy, the milky way only has "one" planet with life on it, is there in other galaxies another planet with life on it, and are they more or less advanced than our life?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-16040655

DanB7290

5,535 posts

212 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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Hudson said:
I thought Mr Hawking said it was constantly expanding, and will eventually run out of oomph (needs a remap), and thus will contract and collapse on itself, killing us all and causing another big bang?


Or have i just butchered years of scientific research
This is what I don't get, if the universe is expanding, that means there is a finite end to it (albeit one which moves outwards). If this is true, and it were possible to reach the end of the universe, then would you not hit a solid thing (outside boundary of universe) and then have to wait a little bit for it to expand, then go a little further and repeat?

onyx39

Original Poster:

11,349 posts

172 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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TomN94 said:
I always think, our galaxy, the milky way only has "one" planet with life on it, is there in other galaxies another planet with life on it, and are they more or less advanced than our life?
I am a firm believer of this.
I think it shows arrogance of the highest level to assume that we are the only "intelligent life" anywhere?


Polrules

394 posts

256 months

Tuesday 6th December 2011
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This should answer the original query nicely....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17jymDn0W6U