Large pa salary drop...

[nosubstitute]

I switched careers 10 years ago to become a primary school teacher...

I did it to 'make a difference' and make maximum use of my education to pass on to future generations. What prompted this? A cummulative affect of realsing money wasn't everything and dealing with people working on 'trading floors' who decided it was appropriate to use extremely offensive language towards me because...'they could't open quotes' on stocks...I used to be an AE on a trading desk but seriously....

I'd be interested to know who else has sacrificed an ability to generate income in deferrence to doing something altuistic.

[nosubstitute]

apologies for spelling errors....

[Somnophore]

Went from business banking sector to teaching bushcraft and survival skills and buying and selling antiques and collectables not altruistic especially but realised life is for living, I do work with kids a lot of the time and believe the skills I teach are fun, useful and with the foraging stuff etc sustainable and help reduce people's food budgets etc.

I nearly did the same and was going to do a PGCE but decided to set up my own business, I think long term I may make a decent business of it but was a sacrifice so far.

[RedAlfa]

nosubstitute said:

apologies for spelling errors....

[Ray Luxury-Yacht]

As I've already documented on here, I was made redundant from my last Senior Management role a couple of months ago. Typical earnings circa 50k with a bonus - good money this far out of London.

I did have a brief hiatus when I started a business in 2007, which was fun, taught me a lot, and gave me an income through the recession. Sold the business last year when I took the latest management role - had no idea the new job would only last 18 months. Anyway, despite having a laugh with my own business - it's probably twice the work and worry of being in management - for a net income when you work out the hours that equated to way less than the minimum wage...

Anyway, I'm fed up with 20 odd years of management bullcrap, endless figures and budgets, and managing retards. Fed up with constant meetings about turnover and profit and endless long faces and hand-wringing about money - and hence because of that endless sleepless nights about impending redundancy (which has come true 3 times in the last 7 years)

So I'm off to University to study medicine, and be an Ambulance Paramedic. I did have some stratospheric aspirations to be a Doctor initially, but after a reality check from existing Doctors, I've got back in my box and accepted my limitations Had some great help and guidance from some nice PH'ers already in medicine too.

Gonna be out making a difference to real people in the real world as much as I damn well can. The salary is enough to live on as far as I'm concerned, and at 39 years old I've kinda got to a point in life where the youngster's enthusiasm and dreams of being rich have faded away now

And with a bit of luck (although who knows with the Tories' endless attack of the NHS) I'll not suffer another bloody fking redundancy, let's hope.

[Chicane-UK]

Ray Luxury-Yacht said:

So I'm off to University to study medicine, and be an Ambulance Paramedic. I did have some stratospheric aspirations to be a Doctor initially, but after a reality check from existing Doctors, I've got back in my box and accepted my limitations Had some great help and guidance from some nice PH'ers already in medicine too.

Gonna be out making a difference to real people in the real world as much as I damn well can. The salary is enough to live on as far as I'm concerned, and at 39 years old I've kinda got to a point in life where the youngster's enthusiasm and dreams of being rich have faded away now

Wow - fair play. I've always admired the work that paramedics do.. it must be incredibly difficult on you emotionally to have to help people who are in life threatening situations every day. I doff my cap to you sir and I hope it goes well. I'd never be strong enough to do such a thing.

[Ray Luxury-Yacht]

Chicane-UK said:

Ray Luxury-Yacht said:

So I'm off to University to study medicine, and be an Ambulance Paramedic. I did have some stratospheric aspirations to be a Doctor initially, but after a reality check from existing Doctors, I've got back in my box and accepted my limitations Had some great help and guidance from some nice PH'ers already in medicine too.

Gonna be out making a difference to real people in the real world as much as I damn well can. The salary is enough to live on as far as I'm concerned, and at 39 years old I've kinda got to a point in life where the youngster's enthusiasm and dreams of being rich have faded away now

Wow - fair play. I've always admired the work that paramedics do.. it must be incredibly difficult on you emotionally to have to help people who are in life threatening situations every day. I doff my cap to you sir and I hope it goes well. I'd never be strong enough to do such a thing.

Cheers dude but I reckon if you really wanted to do it as much as I do, you'd be fine!

Even though I've been in Management in the print industry since I left school - I've always been fascinated in medicine and human biology on the side as an 'enthusiastic amateur' and I'm in St. John Ambulance too.

My brother did a medical degree at Imperial College in London, I should have done the same - he's a millionnaire now

The ultimate career progression for me in medicine I think, will be to work up to being a fast response motorcycle Paramedic. Having had a bike license for 20 years and done British National Superbike racing, I reckon it combines my two other loves in life

Or I'd REALLY love to perhaps do Helimed work - but it's very sought after, and you gotta be the best - no idea how good I will be at it, but I will work my socks off and do my level best!

[HoHoHo]

nosubstitute said:

I switched careers 10 years ago to become a primary school teacher...

nosubstitute said:

apologies for spelling errors....

Sorry, but I'm amazed how many teachers can't spell or are aware of correct grammar (I have 5 children going through various stages of life/education and I've seen almost everything you can think of)

And before anybody picks me up on my spelling or grammar on this or previous posts................I'm not a teacher, I don't need to spell, punctuate or examine my grammar





As I've always said.....

Those who can do.......

Those who can't teach.

[rog007]

Ray Luxury-Yacht said:

The ultimate career progression for me in medicine I think, will be to work up to being a fast response motorcycle Paramedic. Having had a bike license for 20 years and done British National Superbike racing, I reckon it combines my two other loves in life

If you don't already know; not all ambulance services have motorcycycles, so worth double checking the one where you hope to work. A number found that they were having too many accidents due to the red mist coming down when the boys and girls were getting a shout and switching on the Blues & Twos. Makes sense when you consider the first principle of first aid; don't become a casualty yourself.

[Chilli]

Ray Luxury-Yacht said:

As I've already documented on here, I was made redundant from my last Senior Management role a couple of months ago. Typical earnings circa 50k with a bonus - good money this far out of London.

I did have a brief hiatus when I started a business in 2007, which was fun, taught me a lot, and gave me an income through the recession. Sold the business last year when I took the latest management role - had no idea the new job would only last 18 months. Anyway, despite having a laugh with my own business - it's probably twice the work and worry of being in management - for a net income when you work out the hours that equated to way less than the minimum wage...

Anyway, I'm fed up with 20 odd years of management bullcrap, endless figures and budgets, and managing retards. Fed up with constant meetings about turnover and profit and endless long faces and hand-wringing about money - and hence because of that endless sleepless nights about impending redundancy (which has come true 3 times in the last 7 years)

So I'm off to University to study medicine, and be an Ambulance Paramedic. I did have some stratospheric aspirations to be a Doctor initially, but after a reality check from existing Doctors, I've got back in my box and accepted my limitations Had some great help and guidance from some nice PH'ers already in medicine too.

Gonna be out making a difference to real people in the real world as much as I damn well can. The salary is enough to live on as far as I'm concerned, and at 39 years old I've kinda got to a point in life where the youngster's enthusiasm and dreams of being rich have faded away now

And with a bit of luck (although who knows with the Tories' endless attack of the NHS) I'll not suffer another bloody fking redundancy, let's hope.

Good god, your life is almost exactly the same as mine! However, after the latest redundancy, and at 40 years of age, I have zero intention of going to Uni. I might try and buy a degree online though, as I won't get another job without one.

Good luck to you.

[Fatman2]

Ray Luxury-Yacht said:

I did have some stratospheric aspirations to be a Doctor initially, but after a reality check from existing Doctors, I've got back in my box and accepted my limitations

I guess these doctors never watched Lorenzo's Oil then?

I'm a firm believer that you can do anything provided you're determined enough. I once saw a documentary where a doctor read enough to engineer a pioneering piece of life saving equipment because he saw a need for it and the tech wasn't available.

Good luck!

[blindswelledrat]

nosubstitute said:

deferrence to doing something altuistic.

BIt self-righteous aren't you?
I would strongly suggest you did it for a better life for yourself rather than altruism.
That's the equivalent of Soovy claiming that his legal help towards the poor IG Index traders is based upon an overwhelming desire to help the unfortunate as opposed to a stack of cash

[STW2010]

CrashTD said:

HoHoHo said:

Sorry, but I'm amazed how many teachers can't spell or are aware of correct grammar

I know teachers who cant count past 10 unless they are wearing flip-flops. Its lecturers that need to be intelligent, teachers just need to know how to...well teach.

Mind if I steal this phrase? I'm a lecturer and my wife is a primary teacher. I've been saying this for ages, but I've never put it as well as you have!

[singlecoil]

HoHoHo said:

Sorry, but

I've noticed that anybody who starts a sentence with sorry but is very evidently not sorry at all. How do I know? Because if they were sorry, they wouldn't do it. Normally sorrow is expressed after an event which the person expressing the sorrow now wishes had not happened. To be sorry and then go ahead and do it anyway is to be not sorry.


The OP had already noticed the typos (mostly) but is probably unaware of the editing facility.

[HoHoHo]

singlecoil said:

HoHoHo said:

Sorry, but

I've noticed that anybody who starts a sentence with sorry but is very evidently not sorry at all. How do I know? Because if they were sorry, they wouldn't do it. Normally sorrow is expressed after an event which the person expressing the sorrow now wishes had not happened. To be sorry and then go ahead and do it anyway is to be not sorry.


The OP had already noticed the typos (mostly) but is probably unaware of the editing facility.

Sorry, but I really don't care about your opinion

[Ray Luxury-Yacht]

rog007 said:

Ray Luxury-Yacht said:

The ultimate career progression for me in medicine I think, will be to work up to being a fast response motorcycle Paramedic. Having had a bike license for 20 years and done British National Superbike racing, I reckon it combines my two other loves in life

If you don't already know; not all ambulance services have motorcycycles, so worth double checking the one where you hope to work. A number found that they were having too many accidents due to the red mist coming down when the boys and girls were getting a shout and switching on the Blues & Twos. Makes sense when you consider the first principle of first aid; don't become a casualty yourself.

Yeah, I know this - I'm not TOO bothered about ending up on a bike - would be nice, but just want to do the job whatever.

I do sometimes think when I'm watching 'Emergency Bikers' on TV, that the guys occasionally appear to take a few too many risks for my liking riding through traffic, and I did think it would be massively ironic to crash on the way to a shout!

[CrashTD]

STW2010 said:

Mind if I steal this phrase? I'm a lecturer and my wife is a primary teacher. I've been saying this for ages, but I've never put it as well as you have!

Sure.

When you need to back-pedal tell her that you appreciate teaching is a skill. I briefly worked in a school and the urge to trip up kids and push them into door frames was almost unbearable. OH is also a teacher and I have no idea how they do it.

[nice audi driver]

CrashTD said:

HoHoHo said:

Sorry, but I'm amazed how many teachers can't spell or are aware of correct grammar

I know teachers who cant count past 10 unless they are wearing flip-flops. Its lecturers that need to be intelligent, teachers just need to know how to...well teach.

My sister is a primary teacher and has immaculate spelling, punctuation and grammar. Unfortunately she seems to be one of the few, and knowing a lot of people who are primary teachers it's unbelievable how poor some "teachers'" basic English and Maths skills are. One was telling me about a student teacher (final year of a BEd degree) who told a group that squaring a number is the same as doubling it.

[STW2010]

nice audi driver said:

One was telling me about a student teacher (final year of a BEd degree) who told a group that squaring a number is the same as doubling it.

It is if that number is '2'

[nosubstitute]

I guess as a teacher not proof reading a post prior to posting it is a bit of a cardinal sin! lol

I was just chilling out at the time...

The spirit of my post remains though. I'd have been a LOT better off financially if I'd remained in my 'city' career.