Why not make the career change?
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I was having a chat with my neighbour this afternoon...apparently as a teacher I should be enjoying my holidays and quite frankly I am! lol
To be fair he was just winding me up as he knows how hard I work during the holidays...not all the holidays obviously, but some days are spent working, although less so as you gain more experience. As a teacher the holiday is time outside of the classroom for sure but it doesn't mean no work whatsoever unless you don't care about your role.
I hear so many people slag off firemen, bankers, city traders you name it.
I will say that there are plenty of people who work as hard if not harder than teachers, firemen, bankers, city traders etc for a lot less renumeration in terms of absolute earnings and in the case of teachers the benefits of longer holidays but that is life surely?
The point of this post...if it's so easy to do x y or z, be it teacher, policeman, fireman, banker, city trader and you regards yourself as capable why not try to make it happen rather than just moaning about how much better off other people appear to be?
To be fair he was just winding me up as he knows how hard I work during the holidays...not all the holidays obviously, but some days are spent working, although less so as you gain more experience. As a teacher the holiday is time outside of the classroom for sure but it doesn't mean no work whatsoever unless you don't care about your role.
I hear so many people slag off firemen, bankers, city traders you name it.
I will say that there are plenty of people who work as hard if not harder than teachers, firemen, bankers, city traders etc for a lot less renumeration in terms of absolute earnings and in the case of teachers the benefits of longer holidays but that is life surely?
The point of this post...if it's so easy to do x y or z, be it teacher, policeman, fireman, banker, city trader and you regards yourself as capable why not try to make it happen rather than just moaning about how much better off other people appear to be?
There was a guy on here a few months back who was complaining because his mate got paid so much more than him just 'sitting on his arse all day' as a research scientist when he has to work really hard laying bricks for a lot less money.
As above, people have the wrong idea about what other peoples jobs involved.
As above, people have the wrong idea about what other peoples jobs involved.
To be fair there will be a point in a person's life where it is not possible to make the switch, but why slag off those who are, or had the foresight/b
ks to make the move when they could?
I had a 'red' car in the garage when I made my career change in 2004...I don't anymore and never will again!
ks to make the move when they could?I had a 'red' car in the garage when I made my career change in 2004...I don't anymore and never will again!
Would I be right in saying it's a lot easier to become a teacher nowadays than it was in the past? Reason I ask is because two girls whom I went to school with have qualified recently, with one teaching drama and the other in a primary school. If I recall correctly, they each got distinctly average A-level results in pointless subjects and both of them achieved a 2:2 degree. They're also the type (at 25-years old!) to confuse words such as their, they're and there and post generally thick comments on Facebook. My personal favourite - from a status just the other day - is: "I luv my job 4 the holiday's!!!!111!!1!". Yes, really.
How has this happened?
I think I might become a teacher because, clearly, it is fking easy. 
How has this happened?
I think I might become a teacher because, clearly, it is f
king easy. Edited by David87 on Friday 13th April 18:23
I'm not sure it's easier; but there are many, many more routes into teaching than in the past which I suppose makes it more accessible to all...
That said, a number of my friends are hitting the wall in teaching, in that the job is no longer about the children; it's about the paperwork. Thus if you can do admin, you can teach??
That said, a number of my friends are hitting the wall in teaching, in that the job is no longer about the children; it's about the paperwork. Thus if you can do admin, you can teach??
My personal lack of respect for the 'profession' of teaching comes from the fact that of all my ex-school friends, the ones who 'chose' teaching did so only after all other options had failed. Like any vocation, I'm sure there are some good ones out there, but there must be some absolute shockers too.
Also, when I was at school, our teachers felt it was their duty to spout as much left wing bks as they could in an attempt to brainwash us. "A teacher voting Tory is like a turkey voting for Christmas" was one favourite line. Perhaps you should vote for the good of the country rather than your own selfish union-led reasons. An absolute abuse of power. Tossers.
I imagine it is the same now with green issues, human rights et al. I only hope that by forking out a reasonable portion of my playtime money, sprog 1 will have a better experience than I did. Not entirely convinced though.
all IMHO of course
Also, when I was at school, our teachers felt it was their duty to spout as much left wing b
ks as they could in an attempt to brainwash us. "A teacher voting Tory is like a turkey voting for Christmas" was one favourite line. Perhaps you should vote for the good of the country rather than your own selfish union-led reasons. An absolute abuse of power. Tossers.I imagine it is the same now with green issues, human rights et al. I only hope that by forking out a reasonable portion of my playtime money, sprog 1 will have a better experience than I did. Not entirely convinced though.
all IMHO of course
My parents taught me to believe that teachers are strange people and to be a teacher you have to be strange or a crazy person.
This ties in with all teachers I have know who have been crazy. Many of which had nervous breakdowns.
One of my friends is a teacher (a young 25 year old who got uni the job with mediocre results).
I feel sorry for her when I hear her talk about her carrear. She works harder than anyone I know, all evening and most weekends. It's not what I imagined teaching to be.
It also sounds like the kids are idiots and horribleness and her work colleagues are rude, unfriendly and cliquey.
Wouldn't ever consider it myself
This ties in with all teachers I have know who have been crazy. Many of which had nervous breakdowns.
One of my friends is a teacher (a young 25 year old who got uni the job with mediocre results).
I feel sorry for her when I hear her talk about her carrear. She works harder than anyone I know, all evening and most weekends. It's not what I imagined teaching to be.
It also sounds like the kids are idiots and horribleness and her work colleagues are rude, unfriendly and cliquey.
Wouldn't ever consider it myself
David87 said:
Would I be right in saying it's a lot easier to become a teacher nowadays than it was in the past? Reason I ask is because two girls whom I went to school with have qualified recently, with one teaching drama and the other in a primary school. If I recall correctly, they each got distinctly average A-level results in pointless subjects and both of them achieved a 2:2 degree. They're also the type (at 25-years old!) to confuse words such as their, they're and there and post generally thick comments on Facebook. My personal favourite - from a status just the other day - is: "I luv my job 4 the holiday's!!!!111!!1!". Yes, really.
How has this happened?
I think I might become a teacher because, clearly, it is fking easy.
They wouldn't last their first performance management observation in my school! Don't judge people on Facebook postings either...How has this happened?
I think I might become a teacher because, clearly, it is f
king easy. Edited by David87 on Friday 13th April 18:23
Ilikebeaver said:
My parents taught me to believe that teachers are strange people and to be a teacher you have to be strange or a crazy person.
This ties in with all teachers I have know who have been crazy. Many of which had nervous breakdowns.
One of my friends is a teacher (a young 25 year old who got uni the job with mediocre results).
I feel sorry for her when I hear her talk about her carrear. She works harder than anyone I know, all evening and most weekends. It's not what I imagined teaching to be.
It also sounds like the kids are idiots and horribleness and her work colleagues are rude, unfriendly and cliquey.
Wouldn't ever consider it myself
What role do you peform?This ties in with all teachers I have know who have been crazy. Many of which had nervous breakdowns.
One of my friends is a teacher (a young 25 year old who got uni the job with mediocre results).
I feel sorry for her when I hear her talk about her carrear. She works harder than anyone I know, all evening and most weekends. It's not what I imagined teaching to be.
It also sounds like the kids are idiots and horribleness and her work colleagues are rude, unfriendly and cliquey.
Wouldn't ever consider it myself
nosubstitute said:
Ilikebeaver said:
I work in a small office managing the sales team for an old manufacturing company
Manufacturing is the future of this country. I wish you well!I think it's important for the uk to hold on to any last remaining manufacturing it can. My boyfriend also works for a large manufacturing company in the same town (although owned by a Japanese company) is had a record sales year last year and is keeping that up this year too, so don't believe everything you hear about manufacturing.
Ilikebeaver said:
I can't tell if you are being sarcastic there as this is just text on a screen, but it's a company that's been going since the early 1800's doing a highly skilled and detailed process making a high end product that hasn't been affected as much by the recession as other manufacturing companies.
I think it's important for the uk to hold on to any last remaining manufacturing it can. My boyfriend also works for a large manufacturing company in the same town (although owned by a Japanese company) is had a record sales year last year and is keeping that up this year too, so don't believe everything you hear about manufacturing.
No I am not being sarcastic. I think our future is being able to make things competitively or carry out a services competitively. As a teacher I regard myself as being someone who helps future generations to be in a position to do so through education. We all have a part to play.I think it's important for the uk to hold on to any last remaining manufacturing it can. My boyfriend also works for a large manufacturing company in the same town (although owned by a Japanese company) is had a record sales year last year and is keeping that up this year too, so don't believe everything you hear about manufacturing.
Those who can, do, those who cant, teach. yes yes i know my grammar is probably wrong.
nosubstitute said:
I was having a chat with my neighbour this afternoon...apparently as a teacher I should be enjoying my holidays and quite frankly I am! lol
To be fair he was just winding me up as he knows how hard I work during the holidays...not all the holidays obviously, but some days are spent working, although less so as you gain more experience. As a teacher the holiday is time outside of the classroom for sure but it doesn't mean no work whatsoever unless you don't care about your role.
I hear so many people slag off firemen, bankers, city traders you name it.
I will say that there are plenty of people who work as hard if not harder than teachers, firemen, bankers, city traders etc for a lot less renumeration in terms of absolute earnings and in the case of teachers the benefits of longer holidays but that is life surely?
The point of this post...if it's so easy to do x y or z, be it teacher, policeman, fireman, banker, city trader and you regards yourself as capable why not try to make it happen rather than just moaning about how much better off other people appear to be?
To be fair he was just winding me up as he knows how hard I work during the holidays...not all the holidays obviously, but some days are spent working, although less so as you gain more experience. As a teacher the holiday is time outside of the classroom for sure but it doesn't mean no work whatsoever unless you don't care about your role.
I hear so many people slag off firemen, bankers, city traders you name it.
I will say that there are plenty of people who work as hard if not harder than teachers, firemen, bankers, city traders etc for a lot less renumeration in terms of absolute earnings and in the case of teachers the benefits of longer holidays but that is life surely?
The point of this post...if it's so easy to do x y or z, be it teacher, policeman, fireman, banker, city trader and you regards yourself as capable why not try to make it happen rather than just moaning about how much better off other people appear to be?
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