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Following on from the other thread about Mr Millions wanting to give his wealth away to some dude in a jeweler shop.
I tip following a meal out but that's about it, I don't even know why I do it. Great service is the minimum I expect and I can't believe I tip them when I get it. If someone goes above and beyond, then they deserve some extra cash. I think from now on im going to think twice before leaving a tip.
If a waitress income is made up of tips, then surely thats illegal? Doesnt everyone have to pay minimum wage? If her tips dont make minimum wage then do the restaurant make up the difference? Is that a case of, if I dont pay, then the owner will?
I just think its all getting out of hand, yeah they earn minimum wage, but so does the woman at the check out at Sainsburys, the fella in the bar and bin men but I dont tip all those?
I reckon its all one big conspiracy made up by waitresses.
I tip following a meal out but that's about it, I don't even know why I do it. Great service is the minimum I expect and I can't believe I tip them when I get it. If someone goes above and beyond, then they deserve some extra cash. I think from now on im going to think twice before leaving a tip.
If a waitress income is made up of tips, then surely thats illegal? Doesnt everyone have to pay minimum wage? If her tips dont make minimum wage then do the restaurant make up the difference? Is that a case of, if I dont pay, then the owner will?
I just think its all getting out of hand, yeah they earn minimum wage, but so does the woman at the check out at Sainsburys, the fella in the bar and bin men but I dont tip all those?
I reckon its all one big conspiracy made up by waitresses.
Bar/waiting staff are generally on minimum wage. All of the other professions you state are far from minimum wage.
Minimum wage is only just a liveable amount. You will wont be able to run a car and finance a house on minimum wage. If you work an average 40 hour week on minimum wage you will come home after tax with less than £900 and then you would have to fund everything from that.
The tips that restaurant staff are given are sometimes the difference being able to afford car insurance, heating the house this week so if you are mean enough to not tip waiting staff have long memories and remember who tips and who doesn't.
As the saying goes dont p
s off the people who are making your dinner.
Minimum wage is only just a liveable amount. You will wont be able to run a car and finance a house on minimum wage. If you work an average 40 hour week on minimum wage you will come home after tax with less than £900 and then you would have to fund everything from that.
The tips that restaurant staff are given are sometimes the difference being able to afford car insurance, heating the house this week so if you are mean enough to not tip waiting staff have long memories and remember who tips and who doesn't.
As the saying goes dont p
s off the people who are making your dinner. bicycleshorts said:
Tell that to my mate working at Matalan. I assume you tip there? 
I was more pointing out that bin men and Supermarket workers are not on minimum wage. Its no suprise that Matalan employees are on minimum wage when you have to wait in a queue 20 people long whilst someone fills in a form for a card or returns something and they wont open one of the other tills or no one responds to the buzzer to come help.sherman said:
Minimum wage is only just a liveable amount. You will wont be able to run a car and finance a house on minimum wage.
You're right - you probably can't. But it's not a right to have a car and "own" a house. That's why many do not have a car and rent.My personal view point on tipping; for many years I just did it blindly (in restaurants). Now I actually tip based upon the service. If it's average at best - I tip nothing. My girlfriend hates it, but I guess I'm getting cynical in my old(er) age (31). If the service is nice then I certainly give over the odds.
sherman said:
I was more pointing out that bin men and Supermarket workers are not on minimum wage. Its no suprise that Matalan employees are on minimum wage when you have to wait in a queue 20 people long whilst someone fills in a form for a card or returns something and they wont open one of the other tills or no one responds to the buzzer to come help.
I find I get a lot better customer service at Matalan than most supermarkets.The OP's point still stands, do you tip everyone on minimum wage or just waiting staff?
I know the nmajority of people cut their own hair on Pistonheads, but those who go to a barbers - do you tip and why?
I tip in the barbers but I don't have a clue why. I expect my hair to be cut well for £7, if it is cut well and what a haircut is supposed to be like with no big patches missing he should get the £7, why a tip to say well done?
Barbers must be earning nicely if somebody tips £1-£3 every haircut, 10 haircuts a day atleast, £10-£30 a day, £200-£600 or more a month on tips.
Crazy.
I tip in the barbers but I don't have a clue why. I expect my hair to be cut well for £7, if it is cut well and what a haircut is supposed to be like with no big patches missing he should get the £7, why a tip to say well done?
Barbers must be earning nicely if somebody tips £1-£3 every haircut, 10 haircuts a day atleast, £10-£30 a day, £200-£600 or more a month on tips.
Crazy.
TonyHetherington said:
sherman said:
Minimum wage is only just a liveable amount. You will wont be able to run a car and finance a house on minimum wage.
You're right - you probably can't. But it's not a right to have a car and "own" a house. That's why many do not have a car and rent.My personal view point on tipping; for many years I just did it blindly (in restaurants). Now I actually tip based upon the service. If it's average at best - I tip nothing. My girlfriend hates it, but I guess I'm getting cynical in my old(er) age (31). If the service is nice then I certainly give over the odds.
Completely agree (and I'm 25 
). If you have to rely on tips to run a car or finance a house, you shouldn't be doing it!CraigMST said:
I know the nmajority of people cut their own hair on Pistonheads, but those who go to a barbers - do you tip and why?
I tip in the barbers but I don't have a clue why. I expect my hair to be cut well for £7, if it is cut well and what a haircut is supposed to be like with no big patches missing he should get the £7, why a tip to say well done?
Barbers must be earning nicely if somebody tips £1-£3 every haircut, 10 haircuts a day atleast, £10-£30 a day, £200-£600 or more a month on tips.
Crazy.
I tip hairdressers but I have no idea why.I tip in the barbers but I don't have a clue why. I expect my hair to be cut well for £7, if it is cut well and what a haircut is supposed to be like with no big patches missing he should get the £7, why a tip to say well done?
Barbers must be earning nicely if somebody tips £1-£3 every haircut, 10 haircuts a day atleast, £10-£30 a day, £200-£600 or more a month on tips.
Crazy.
I heard a few days ago that most of them rent a chair to work on from the business owner so they don't actually make a great deal of money.
TonyHetherington said:
sherman said:
Waiting staff only as I know how hard the job can be .
But we don't tip A&E nurses whose job is very hard, but we do hairdressers whose job isn't?Restaurant if the service is good/friendly/helpful, occasionally in a bar.
Amount can vary wildly depending on on much I can spare, how good the service was and how drunk I am.
I gave up tipping black cab drivers, especially in London, when I found out how much they earn, and one chap was happily telling me how he actually lives in France, works 3-4 days in London staying in his flat, parks up the Cab then commutes back to his Villa again in the Merc.
Occasionally mini cab drivers if they dont subject me to a policital rant, or they smile and nod politely when I'm busy giving a political rant (again, this all depends how drunk I am)
Amount can vary wildly depending on on much I can spare, how good the service was and how drunk I am.
I gave up tipping black cab drivers, especially in London, when I found out how much they earn, and one chap was happily telling me how he actually lives in France, works 3-4 days in London staying in his flat, parks up the Cab then commutes back to his Villa again in the Merc.
Occasionally mini cab drivers if they dont subject me to a policital rant, or they smile and nod politely when I'm busy giving a political rant (again, this all depends how drunk I am)
A works 'team building' day ended up at Walkabout on the Embankment in London last week.
As a northerner I was most taken aback at being overtaken by some 'dude' whilst going to the bog, he then held the door, stood there whilst I had a pi5s and then tried to hand me token piece of paper towel at the same time pointing to a dish on the side for a tip...!!!
'fk off' has never been more appropriate!
As a northerner I was most taken aback at being overtaken by some 'dude' whilst going to the bog, he then held the door, stood there whilst I had a pi5s and then tried to hand me token piece of paper towel at the same time pointing to a dish on the side for a tip...!!!
'f
k off' has never been more appropriate!There’s ‘how it should be’, and there’s ‘how it is’.
It’s now custom to tip about 10% in a decent restaurant in the UK.
The salaries the staff receive pre-tip reflect this.
I expect the levels of tip are quite different between the Ivy and the local Harvester.
Perhaps the difference is between ‘fine dining’ and ‘pun grub’ or something like that.
But, I expect the service to be quite different too.
Did you know, a decent front of house maître de in a restraint can earn over 50k base salary, or over 150k in a very nice place.
In the UK being a waiter is consider a part time minimum wage job, in Europe and the US in fine dining it’s a valid career opportunity.
I tip well (10-15%) when I’m fine dining.
I tip randomly in a pub restraint depending on mood and service.
If I’m in a decent restaurant I’ll mentally add 10% onto any meal price as that’s what I’ll end up paying.
It might come from living in Canada/America for a while.
In the US there is such an expectation of a 15%+ tip that servers are taxed based in their income being their wage + 15% of all their receipts (not including alcohol).
It varies from state to state, but that’s the general sort of thing.
There have been cases of diners being chased down by staff for leaving without paying when they didn’t leave the tip.
It’s effectively a compulsory service charge over there.
It’s now custom to tip about 10% in a decent restaurant in the UK.
The salaries the staff receive pre-tip reflect this.
I expect the levels of tip are quite different between the Ivy and the local Harvester.
Perhaps the difference is between ‘fine dining’ and ‘pun grub’ or something like that.
But, I expect the service to be quite different too.
Did you know, a decent front of house maître de in a restraint can earn over 50k base salary, or over 150k in a very nice place.
In the UK being a waiter is consider a part time minimum wage job, in Europe and the US in fine dining it’s a valid career opportunity.
I tip well (10-15%) when I’m fine dining.
I tip randomly in a pub restraint depending on mood and service.
If I’m in a decent restaurant I’ll mentally add 10% onto any meal price as that’s what I’ll end up paying.
It might come from living in Canada/America for a while.
In the US there is such an expectation of a 15%+ tip that servers are taxed based in their income being their wage + 15% of all their receipts (not including alcohol).
It varies from state to state, but that’s the general sort of thing.
There have been cases of diners being chased down by staff for leaving without paying when they didn’t leave the tip.
It’s effectively a compulsory service charge over there.
I always tip if the service is good! 10% as mentioned is about right for me, or a £40 meal, fiver tip, simple.
I think its nice to do, thanks them for working quite hard for a non great wage! However, if the service is poor, no tip at all, im very stringent on that. I work hard in my job, I rarely get tipped, although the odd bottle has been brought as a thank you, of which ive never complained about!
I think its nice to do, thanks them for working quite hard for a non great wage! However, if the service is poor, no tip at all, im very stringent on that. I work hard in my job, I rarely get tipped, although the odd bottle has been brought as a thank you, of which ive never complained about!
z4chris99 said:
Ive never seen a client come in and tip me for doing a good job, thus i dont tip ever.
they carried my food about 15m and took my order, how fking hard can it be.
There is a little more to it than that, good service is very hard to get "right" the right level of interaction, anticipating the customers needs etc Has a client never bought you a bottle of wine or taken you to lunch? I worked in a gastro-type pub for a while and many people told me it was not the food or drink that kept them coming back it was the atmosphere and the quality of service! A tip shouldnt be expected and I dont always tip, although if the service is very good then I dont think its that unreasonable. they carried my food about 15m and took my order, how f
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