Rettendon triple murders
Discussion
Are the two who have been arrested and found guilty ever going to be released?
I ask as its now 16 years and counting surely they are due parole? Or is it a case of the crime was so violent that they are perceived a danger to the public so will likely never be released?
How solid is the actual evidence on the two who are locked up? The movies show super grass however that's one persons statement v another but where is the evidence?
Leigh Betts died and another person from taking the drugs
Find this very interesting that there are still question marks over this. I guess people do know but will not talk possibly as they believe they deserved it or from fear if they did talk something may happen. Personally I highly doubt it's the second especially after all this time.
Lastly we're these three the big boys in Essex or were they merely henchmen trying to play with the big boys and earned themselves another a
hole?
Book recommendations welcomed.
I ask as its now 16 years and counting surely they are due parole? Or is it a case of the crime was so violent that they are perceived a danger to the public so will likely never be released?
How solid is the actual evidence on the two who are locked up? The movies show super grass however that's one persons statement v another but where is the evidence?
Leigh Betts died and another person from taking the drugs
Find this very interesting that there are still question marks over this. I guess people do know but will not talk possibly as they believe they deserved it or from fear if they did talk something may happen. Personally I highly doubt it's the second especially after all this time.
Lastly we're these three the big boys in Essex or were they merely henchmen trying to play with the big boys and earned themselves another a
hole?Book recommendations welcomed.
I think Micheal Steele would have been out by now if he admitted his part in the murders. He still denies playing any part in the shootings which when you consider the fact that doing so could lead to his release makes the guilty verdict even more shaky.
As has been said before, TTR had a huge list of enemys and as they wern't as hard as they thought they were they got ironed out. My moneys always been on Kenneth Noye. He loaned Tate £40k and Tate made it knowledge that he had no intention of paying it back, after the 3 were murdered a close freind of Tates, John Marshall was found dead in a Range Rover in SE London (Noyes patch) with and empty Head sports bag beside him. According to Bernard O'Mahoney Noye gave Tate a Head sports bag full of cash in a pub in West Kingsdown near Brands Hatch in Kent.
It is a facinating story and I've exhausted all avenues of info on it. I'm sure the truth will come out one day, although I feel it won't be untill someone in the know dies.
As has been said before, TTR had a huge list of enemys and as they wern't as hard as they thought they were they got ironed out. My moneys always been on Kenneth Noye. He loaned Tate £40k and Tate made it knowledge that he had no intention of paying it back, after the 3 were murdered a close freind of Tates, John Marshall was found dead in a Range Rover in SE London (Noyes patch) with and empty Head sports bag beside him. According to Bernard O'Mahoney Noye gave Tate a Head sports bag full of cash in a pub in West Kingsdown near Brands Hatch in Kent.
It is a facinating story and I've exhausted all avenues of info on it. I'm sure the truth will come out one day, although I feel it won't be untill someone in the know dies.
Welshbeef said:
Lastly we're these three the big boys in Essex or were they merely henchmen trying to play with the big boys and earned themselves another ahole?
Book recommendations welcomed.
Not even close. The 'big boys' of that time are pretty much still the big boys now. Whilst TTR were peddling drugs on nightclub doors, the proper gangsters from Canning Town were already living in large mansions in Essex. hole?Book recommendations welcomed.
Oakey said:
Not even close. The 'big boys' of that time are pretty much still the big boys now. Whilst TTR were peddling drugs on nightclub doors, the proper gangsters from Canning Town were already living in large mansions in Essex.
agreed.watched the films, (didn't rate the sean bean one) and read the books.
a quote in one of these books went along the lines of, "the best criminals/gangsters" are the ones you never here of."
my dad drove a cab in basildon for 30 years, so he saw a few come and go over the years, i know he wasn't a fan of a certain 3.
I have followed this case in great detail and as Essexplumber mentioned Mickey Steel won't be released unless he makes a confession. I don't believe he pulled any triggers in actual fact Im near on certain he didn't. There are several guys alive who know exactly who were on the triggers.
I believe KN loaned PT £30k and the monies were handed over in a bag in a pub near Brands, however I,m sure KN was paid back as PT looked up to him and it would have served no purpose not to pay him back.
TT and PT were involved in so many questionable deals that the killers could have been from many areas in The UK.
The truth may come out in years to come from the likes of BO
I believe KN loaned PT £30k and the monies were handed over in a bag in a pub near Brands, however I,m sure KN was paid back as PT looked up to him and it would have served no purpose not to pay him back.
TT and PT were involved in so many questionable deals that the killers could have been from many areas in The UK.
The truth may come out in years to come from the likes of BO
Edited by Skullfudge on Monday 21st January 23:38
http://www.bernardomahoney.com/rrmurders/articles/...
That's a good website worth reading, plenty of different sources of information, on face value it seems like the convictions were at best very shakey. I read the book written by the Darren Nicholls a while ago and his story really doesn't seem to add up. It should have been torn apart in court and it never seemed to happen.
One random fact that always surprises me is that the Range Rover is still on the road.
That's a good website worth reading, plenty of different sources of information, on face value it seems like the convictions were at best very shakey. I read the book written by the Darren Nicholls a while ago and his story really doesn't seem to add up. It should have been torn apart in court and it never seemed to happen.
One random fact that always surprises me is that the Range Rover is still on the road.
DanielSan said:
http://www.bernardomahoney.com/rrmurders/articles/...
That's a good website worth reading, plenty of different sources of information, on face value it seems like the convictions were at best very shakey. I read the book written by the Darren Nicholls a while ago and his story really doesn't seem to add up. It should have been torn apart in court and it never seemed to happen.
One random fact that always surprises me is that the Range Rover is still on the road.
agree with you about nicholls, dubious!That's a good website worth reading, plenty of different sources of information, on face value it seems like the convictions were at best very shakey. I read the book written by the Darren Nicholls a while ago and his story really doesn't seem to add up. It should have been torn apart in court and it never seemed to happen.
One random fact that always surprises me is that the Range Rover is still on the road.
i never knew that about the range rover, that must have been some valet it had.
chunkymonkey71 said:
Pickled said:
chilistrucker said:
agree with you about nicholls, dubious!
i never knew that about the range rover, that must have been some valet it had.
It was on Ebay a few years agoi never knew that about the range rover, that must have been some valet it had.
There's a guy in my village pub who claims to be mates with Carlton Leach but all he does is recite lines from the Rise of the Footsoldier film and pretend he's hard. Once he pretended he was hard to the wrong guy and when the baseball bat patrol came looking for him he hid in his Mum's house.
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