Need Airgun for pest control
Need Airgun for pest control
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firemanSimon

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656 posts

168 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Need help ! Need a airgun for pest control. The odd rat,pigeons mostly. £300 to spend. Not sure where to post this so mods feel free to move to appropriate place

inman999

34,954 posts

203 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Wrong forum

Happy82

15,078 posts

199 months

Roger645

1,795 posts

277 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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Head over to AirgunBBS and get something second hand, that way you will get a complete outfit for your budget. If I were you and it's occasional use them something like a Weihrauch HW97K would be good and will not really lose any money if you keep it in good nick.

Bill

58,675 posts

285 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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You'll struggle to get an HW97 and scope for £300. Better to aim for a break barrel imo.

As mentioned airgunbbs is a good place to look.

DanB7290

5,535 posts

220 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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A pistol could be all you need, here's the one I have:
http://www.gunmart.net/gun_review/accuracy_at_a_st...

Very cheap but effective, although loading it can be a right pain in the arse. Sights need to be bang on for it to be accurate, and it can take forever to get them right, but it would be reasonably effective against a rat at <10m. Anything long range is going to need a rifle of some kind. But be prepared for an expensive shopping spree, some of the scopes on air rifles can be over £400 on their own.

Pferdestarke

7,192 posts

217 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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I'm selling a weirauch hw97k in as new condition. PM me for details if interested

McSam

6,753 posts

205 months

Wednesday 7th November 2012
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I can't tell you much about prices at the moment, but I have an Air Arms S200 with a Bushnell telescopic for target shooting. Despite being a .177 for that purpose (you'll want a .22), it stops rats very nicely indeed and is accurate to closer than a pellet's width at 20m.

About six or seven years ago, I paid £350 for the rifle and sight, though it does also need a 200bar pump to charge it!

See if you can find a secondhand compressed air rifle within budget. You'll want a telescopic sight to make life easier (might seem overkill but trust me, exceptionally helpful and also makes zeroing a million times quicker and more precise), and despite the added cost of having to get a pump, compressed air guns are so much better than "springer" break-barrels. Apart from anything else (like firing 200 shots without making any physical effort or moving my position!), I can load follow-up shots very quickly to catch something wounded/escaping.

defblade

8,061 posts

243 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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McSam said:
(you'll want a .22),
At the risk of starting a 200 page flame war, I prefer .177 for all pest control. Don't even mention .20 wink

Another vote for airgunbbs. For rats and skyrats, £300 is far more than you'll need (but maybe not as much as you'd want wink. Don't even think about shooting something live until you can hit a 1" target every time at the distances you'll be shooting vermin at. And remember it's an absolute offence for a pellet to leave the boundaries of your property, so consider your chosen shooting positions and backstops very carefully.

DIW35

4,204 posts

230 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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For just occasional use I wouldn't bother with a pre-charged pneumatic (PCP) as whilst they might be nice airguns, the additional cost of the charging equipment wouldn't be worth it. I also wouldn't bother with a pistol as they are limited by law to 6 ft/lbs. I dare say there will be some on here who would argue that is plenty sufficient power for disposing of rats or pigeons, but any self respecting airgun shooter would always advocate using a full power rifle for dispatching vermin humanely.

That leaves you with a spring powered rifle. I wouldn't get hung up over calibre as both .177 and .22 are more than capable of doing the job you have in mind, so if you are looking at second hand and find a rifle in your price range, the condition should be the deciding factor, not the calibre.

pokethepope

2,667 posts

218 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Another vote for AirgunBBS. Stick with a Weihrauch and you can't go wrong.

As a guide I got a lightly tuned HW77k for £150. Add a decent budget scope for £50 and you have a very capable package for well under your budget.

GWC

4,432 posts

225 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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I bought a .22 Cometa 300 with an AGS scope for £160 a few years ago for killing rats. It's on the legal limit, reliable, accurate and bloody good value for money.

AceOfHearts

5,956 posts

221 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Ive got a HW95k and love it

I definately think a good second hand Weihrauch is worth the money, but once you start you will get addicted!

I have 5 guns in the house now hehe

Dusty964

7,368 posts

220 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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A nice old Air Arms side lever with a 4x40 on it.
Nothing more would be needed.

McSam

6,753 posts

205 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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AceOfHearts said:
Ive got a HW95k and love it

I definately think a good second hand Weihrauch is worth the money, but once you start you will get addicted!

I have 5 guns in the house now hehe
This is the reason I suggested a PCP rifle to start with hehe if you get a cheap one, you'll only end up upgrading it when you realise you want to do a lot more shooting than just the occasional rat!

Never having used .22 for pest control myself, I can't comment on the relative effectiveness from personal use.. But I do a perfectly good job with dome-head .177 pellets, and if I had trouble I could always switch to sharper-pointed ones, so perhaps you needn't worry about calibre after all smile

Bill

58,675 posts

285 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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McSam said:
This is the reason I suggested a PCP rifle to start with hehe if you get a cheap one, you'll only end up upgrading it when you realise you want to do a lot more shooting than just the occasional rat!

Never having used .22 for pest control myself, I can't comment on the relative effectiveness from personal use.. But I do a perfectly good job with dome-head .177 pellets, and if I had trouble I could always switch to sharper-pointed ones, so perhaps you needn't worry about calibre after all smile
I do a perfectly good job with a .22 HW99. I chose it because it's simple, perfectly accurate and relatively cheap.

However I have just upgraded to a multishot PCP as it's also quite noisy and hard to silence due to the foresight mounts. I also have a bigger rat problem than I thought hehe

I've also gone for .177 on the grounds that a head shot is a head shot and that's easier to achieve with .177 at longer ranges because you don't have to be so accurate with range finding.

Bill

58,675 posts

285 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Opinion seems to be that they're ok if you get a good one, but downright dangerous (they'll fire themselves eek) if you get a bad one.

firemanSimon

Original Poster:

656 posts

168 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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http://www.freeads.co.uk/uk/buysell/leisure__hobbies/huntingsporting_equipment/air_guns/17671411/webley-vulcan-22/view

this ?

Sexual Chocolate

1,583 posts

174 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Shame you didn't post this last week as I have just sold my Air Amrs S410 TDR for £350.

A few mates of mine shoot regularly so I'll ask around as I know one of them was looking to sell his 410 as well. But airgunbbs is the probably the best place to source one.

Try and get a charged one, you'll need a air bottle (something like a divers pony bottle will do but check the stamps on the shoulder of it) and the lead. If you can get one converted to use a cartridge then it makes life so much easier. Scope is a must and you can get some cheap Reich(?) ones (Made in china). .22 is preferable over a .177 though the later is more accurate IMHO. Also make sure you check the muzzle pressure it should be less than 12. A lot of air guns are modified well over that and Air Arms ones are easy to do. Anything over 12 you need a FAC licence for I think.

Ratting is great fun biggrin



Edited by Sexual Chocolate on Thursday 8th November 10:58

McSam

6,753 posts

205 months

Thursday 8th November 2012
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Bill said:
I do a perfectly good job with a .22 HW99. I chose it because it's simple, perfectly accurate and relatively cheap.

However I have just upgraded to a multishot PCP as it's also quite noisy and hard to silence due to the foresight mounts. I also have a bigger rat problem than I thought hehe

I've also gone for .177 on the grounds that a head shot is a head shot and that's easier to achieve with .177 at longer ranges because you don't have to be so accurate with range finding.
Fair enough smile stop talking about multishots, it's very easy to turn my S200 into an S210 and outrageously tempting to do so! I do see your point with the .177 over longer ranges, not something I'd considered with a twenty-yard garden.


S410 is a gorgeous gun, SC, nice lick I would have one if I wasn't defiantly left-handed!