Identify ww1 or ww2 shell

[Dracoro]

NO idea where to post this but here goes!

Anyone identify this ww1/2 shell? Only have the fuse part, made of brass about 1kg in weight. It's about 3 inches in diameter, the pic shows it on my knee!



Engraving is something like the following:
NO TOT.IS SMA.F.317

The "O" on NO above has a dot underneath. Not sure if dots on markings are from impact but looks like part of the stamping.

Edited by Dracoro on Thursday 31st January 22:40

[Fort Jefferson]

I'll ask my dad tomorrow, he was in the Royal Artilery in the WW2.

[Dracoro]

Thanks!

Some more pics if that helps...

[Eric Mc]

I hope the initials NO do not stand for Nuclear Ordnance.

[Caulkhead]

Looks like a WW1 16 pounder to me.

[mat13]

Eric Mc said:

I hope the initials NO do not stand for Nuclear Ordnance.

Hopefully not, however i would imagine that a nuke from that era would be a little bit bigger.

Is it BruceV8 who worked as a bomb disposal expert? If it is he may be able to identify it.

[MOTORVATOR]

101 percussion fuze mark 1S

[Dracoro]

Thanks! Looks close (although the one in my pic has cross hatch ring engraved).

I wonder what all the markings mean, guessing that SMAF is something Air Force?? No idea really.

Also, anyone know what it would have been attached to?

[MOTORVATOR]

Numerous versions of that and by different manufacturers looking different from each other. That's why the numbering is important.

Here's one with the knurling.



As for the SMAF part of it that's way beyond my scope but I would guess it is manufacturer so more like SM Artillery/Arms/Agency Factory and the following numbers could be date related, March 1917?

You'll find all the possible uses here.

http://www.ammunitionpages.com/categories.php?cat_...

My knowledge ends there really as my construction training from digging up old arms factories etc was just to identify that it is a potential munition then sod off out of it and let the experts have a look. Something I am quite happy to do.

[Oldandslow]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8s21Pq-TLU

Is that in any way related?

[Eric Mc]

The term "Air Force" didn't come into being until 1918 when the RAF was formed. I am pretty sure the RAF was the first English speaking "Air Force" in the world.