Where do all the UPS lost parcels go?
Where do all the UPS lost parcels go?
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Evoluzione

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10,345 posts

273 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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A couple of weeks ago I sent a no-longer-available, fully refurbished, re-built and ported very rare cylinder head with UPS to Ireland. They lost it.....

I take a lot of pride in my work and there was a fair few hours spent on it, I'm currently going through the claims procedure and sourcing the chap another one for me to work on, I just hope I can get something back. This isn't about having a go at anyone - indeed, UPS have been very reliable up until now, but as per title:

Where is it likely to end up?
How you manage to lose something so big and heavy is beyond me and presuming it wasn't stolen (and you wouldn't stuff one of those down your pants), it's perhaps that the label has become detached, they must have a clear out and maybe auction somewhere?

mini1380cc

2,949 posts

201 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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Heavy = expensive = worth something down the pub.

HughMannity

99 posts

185 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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We deal with this for a couple of other carriers at work and it covers lost then found items as well as failed deliveries or stuff where labels have fallen off etc. The items are normally stored on trailers at depots (or end up that way), they are then worked on to have a final try to repatriate to the recipient or seller. Anything that's left get's sold on either to jobbers or auctioned. Not sure if all carriers do this though.

Jazoli

9,681 posts

280 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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If its anything like TNT it'll end up in a massive warehouse rammed with millions of other parcels big and small where it'll sit for 5 years before being auctioned off for £2.

daddy cool

4,107 posts

259 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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Evoluzione said:
Where is it likely to end up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdjf4lMmiiI

surveyor

18,705 posts

214 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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Parcelforce similarly lost a towbar that was being sent to me. Was collected sent to depot and never seen again. Most frustrating as it was the sellers second attempt, after he sent a first to the wrong address who would not return/forward/acknowledge it.

Impasse

15,099 posts

271 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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daddy cool said:
Evoluzione said:
Where is it likely to end up?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fdjf4lMmiiI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoBHyIMWP4Qthumbup

HereBeMonsters

14,180 posts

212 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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I had this happen to me a depot (FedEx, I think?) in Whiteley near Fareham a couple of years ago. Tracking said parcel arrived at their depot, never got loaded into a truck to send to me.
I went down there with the tracking information - and saw the item sitting there in the warehouse. They refused to acknowledge it was my package, despite me being able to describe exactly what it was - (four alloy wheels for a 205 GTI) and have details of the ebay auction etc. that I had won.

I got my money back from ebay, seller got money back from the shipping company in the end, but it would have been a lot easier if they had just given me the sodding wheels.

Blakeatron

2,567 posts

203 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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Just been through this with city link and yodel.

City link think they delivered to the wrong address but can't confirm, finally refunded me.

Yodel lost it, admitted they lost it, refunded me and then returned the item to me 2 months later! Contacted them to say I had had a refund already but had no reply.

LordHaveMurci

12,338 posts

199 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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Jazoli said:
If its anything like TNT it'll end up in a massive warehouse rammed with millions of other parcels big and small where it'll sit for 5 years before being auctioned off for £2.
TNT managed to 'lose' a floor standing network cabinet which on it's pallet must have been 6ft+ high and what, 2.5ft sq, weighing in at 50kg+ at a guess - how the feck do you lose something that big?!!!
We have a client that once paid £50k for a couriers 'lost' parcels, they made an awful lot of money out of that deal & still ended up binning a load of expensive but specialised kit as they couldn't shift it.

RizzoTheRat

29,063 posts

222 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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LordHaveMurci said:
TNT managed to 'lose' a floor standing network cabinet which on it's pallet must have been 6ft+ high and what, 2.5ft sq, weighing in at 50kg+ at a guess - how the feck do you lose something that big?!!!
They only have to lose the address label which probably isn't that hard if the package gets wet or scraped on something.

LordHaveMurci

12,338 posts

199 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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RizzoTheRat said:
LordHaveMurci said:
TNT managed to 'lose' a floor standing network cabinet which on it's pallet must have been 6ft+ high and what, 2.5ft sq, weighing in at 50kg+ at a guess - how the feck do you lose something that big?!!!
They only have to lose the address label which probably isn't that hard if the package gets wet or scraped on something.
Still pretty easy to identify in the 'lost parcels' pile to be fair!

DJFish

6,017 posts

293 months

Friday 4th July 2014
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On an island, with Tom Hanks.

Or is that the other firm?

Jazoli

9,681 posts

280 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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LordHaveMurci said:
Still pretty easy to identify in the 'lost parcels' pile to be fair!
You'd be surprised, these places are huge, I was in the TNT one last week and its a huge warehouse, with racking from floor to ceiling with thousands upon thousands of parcels from large to small, it would easily get lost in there.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

242 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Funny you say UPS.

Ordered from Adidas online shop. Now their warehouse is, like the company, in Germany. Tracking number sent by email.

So it goes Adidas HQ Germany. Airport. England. Birmingham. Croydon depot (my nearest) where it then sits for 3 days. Literally 2 miles from me.

Phone UPS. Where's my parcel?
Can't tell you. You aren't our customer. Adidas is.
Fine. You unhelpful bell.
Phone Adidas, spoke to a Brit sitting in an office in Germany. He says he'll sort it.

2 hours later Half 9 in the evening get an unmarked battered van delivering my parcel to me.
I phoned back the guy in Germany to say Cheers smile

Evidently UPS "driver" decided that a shoe box size package with Adidas written all over the address sticker was far better going to him than me! rolleyes


Note: Clearly not all delivery drivers are potentially light fingered. But the unmarked van and super late delivery suggested to me someone got a "chat"

Nickyboy

6,825 posts

264 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Rich_W said:
Funny you say UPS.

Ordered from Adidas online shop. Now their warehouse is, like the company, in Germany. Tracking number sent by email.

So it goes Adidas HQ Germany. Airport. England. Birmingham. Croydon depot (my nearest) where it then sits for 3 days. Literally 2 miles from me.

Phone UPS. Where's my parcel?
Can't tell you. You aren't our customer. Adidas is.
Fine. You unhelpful bell.
Phone Adidas, spoke to a Brit sitting in an office in Germany. He says he'll sort it.

2 hours later Half 9 in the evening get an unmarked battered van delivering my parcel to me.
I phoned back the guy in Germany to say Cheers smile

Evidently UPS "driver" decided that a shoe box size package with Adidas written all over the address sticker was far better going to him than me! rolleyes


Note: Clearly not all delivery drivers are potentially light fingered. But the unmarked van and super late delivery suggested to me someone got a "chat"
Or as in a case at our depot, the depot manager took the mechanics van as we had none left and someone needed something urgently before they flew overseas. Didn't look good but the customer got her sons birthday present to take to Thailand with her.

Do you have the tracking number for the missing parcel? If it was in the UK where it lost its label (most likely) then it'll be sent to overgoods at our hub in Tamworth. Once a trace request is opened they will try and match it to the item, bear in mind it can take some time but a lot of items are reunited with their owners eventually. If you sent it via someone like Interparcel or Parcel2go then its then who will have to file the claim and it will be returned to them.

Rich_W

12,548 posts

242 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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Nickyboy said:
Or as in a case at our depot, the depot manager took the mechanics van as we had none left and someone needed something urgently before they flew overseas. Didn't look good but the customer got her sons birthday present to take to Thailand with her.

Do you have the tracking number for the missing parcel? If it was in the UK where it lost its label (most likely) then it'll be sent to overgoods at our hub in Tamworth. Once a trace request is opened they will try and match it to the item, bear in mind it can take some time but a lot of items are reunited with their owners eventually. If you sent it via someone like Interparcel or Parcel2go then its then who will have to file the claim and it will be returned to them.
The facts as I see it

3 days sitting on a shelf not moving
Sticker was attached and correct
Guy didn't look like a manager.
Really they'd deliver that at 930pm ordinarily?

Sorry, I don't buy it. It's the 1 in 100 maybe 1000 even scrotes that ruin a delivery companies image. And companies like UPS should do more to get rid at the first sign of trouble

Compare to DPD who sent me email with a live GPS tracking thingy. You are delivery 43. "Thomas" your driver is on delivery 28. And from the GPS 1/2 a mile away. That's the future

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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LordHaveMurci said:
TNT managed to 'lose' a floor standing network cabinet which on it's pallet must have been 6ft+ high and what, 2.5ft sq, weighing in at 50kg+ at a guess - how the feck do you lose something that big?!!!
We have a client that once paid £50k for a couriers 'lost' parcels, they made an awful lot of money out of that deal & still ended up binning a load of expensive but specialised kit as they couldn't shift it.
I have heard British Rail managed to loose 2 rail tankers of cement when they were given a try, let's not even ask how Malaysian can loose a fooookin big plane.

Funk

27,764 posts

239 months

Saturday 5th July 2014
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It happens. Last week TNT managed to lose £100k's worth of HP D2D units we had in with a customer on demo. It was a tense few days but they were located and delivered correctly in the end.

Bet the insurers were glad they didn't have to foot the bill for that one!

MartG

22,859 posts

234 months

Sunday 6th July 2014
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Rich_W said:
Compare to DPD who sent me email with a live GPS tracking thingy. You are delivery 43. "Thomas" your driver is on delivery 28. And from the GPS 1/2 a mile away. That's the future
I agree - I regularly get a delivery via DPD and always receive an e-mail and SMS by 9am on the day of delivery giving me the hour-long window during which 'Tom' will deliver it, and he's invariably here in the middle of that window