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Jeans is one of the most annoying to get right, you just have to try as many pairs on. Levis 511 fit me perfectly so I generally stick with that.
Back on topic, trends do come and go but slim fit IMO is here to stay which I'm fine with as I'm of a similar build to Novak Djokovic. Even so, I tailor
80% of my clothes as anyone with a slim athletic V shaped torso would do just so there's no excess material hanging off you. I also tailor my trousers
so there's next to no break over my shoes. Just be mindful most off the rack clothes will not fit you perfectly.
You can either find clothes that fits you pretty well and have it tailored or lose some weight so more slim fit clothes fit. Another alternative is to find
clothes that are not so fitted that you find comfortable.
Back on topic, trends do come and go but slim fit IMO is here to stay which I'm fine with as I'm of a similar build to Novak Djokovic. Even so, I tailor
80% of my clothes as anyone with a slim athletic V shaped torso would do just so there's no excess material hanging off you. I also tailor my trousers
so there's next to no break over my shoes. Just be mindful most off the rack clothes will not fit you perfectly.
You can either find clothes that fits you pretty well and have it tailored or lose some weight so more slim fit clothes fit. Another alternative is to find
clothes that are not so fitted that you find comfortable.
Basically, you're a bit tubby.
Sorry, lard boy. Eat less or exercise more.
Happens to the best of us
More seriously (ish), if something's too loose on the waist, but tight on the arse and thighs, you are a bit of an odd shape for a bloke; blokes tend to put weight on around the middle and end up with floppy arse trousers.... sure there's nothing you're not telling us?
Sorry, lard boy. Eat less or exercise more.
Happens to the best of us
More seriously (ish), if something's too loose on the waist, but tight on the arse and thighs, you are a bit of an odd shape for a bloke; blokes tend to put weight on around the middle and end up with floppy arse trousers.... sure there's nothing you're not telling us?
defblade said:
Basically, you're a bit tubby.
Sorry, lard boy. Eat less or exercise more.
Happens to the best of us
More seriously (ish), if something's too loose on the waist, but tight on the arse and thighs, you are a bit of an odd shape for a bloke; blokes tend to put weight on around the middle and end up with floppy arse trousers.... sure there's nothing you're not telling us?
From his stats the OP is in reasonable shape, men should be big in the thigh and slim in the waist - this is the ideal. Sorry, lard boy. Eat less or exercise more.
Happens to the best of us
More seriously (ish), if something's too loose on the waist, but tight on the arse and thighs, you are a bit of an odd shape for a bloke; blokes tend to put weight on around the middle and end up with floppy arse trousers.... sure there's nothing you're not telling us?
I bought some 501s in the summer that were tight in the thigh area and loose in the waist. Tried them on today after the Christmas excess and they now fit perfectly so there is another solution!
I will admit I'm a bit overweight at 5ft 9 and 194lbs (seems to be lower belly and face 
) I do like the slim fit look, it can be very flattering if it fits properly but my beef is that sizes now are nothing short of stupid,
Bought a diesel jacket, needed xl, most stuff I need large. Otherwise the arms are stupidly short and look silly with my not muscly arms. Medium t shirts come up like crop tops
It's the fault of the short, stocky gym lunatics who want stuff tight to show off their muscle. Who. It looks equally stupid. On some stuff I even find the arms are really tight and the rest is loose. The arms are never loose. It's the look the muscle boys want.
) I do like the slim fit look, it can be very flattering if it fits properly but my beef is that sizes now are nothing short of stupid,Bought a diesel jacket, needed xl, most stuff I need large. Otherwise the arms are stupidly short and look silly with my not muscly arms. Medium t shirts come up like crop tops
It's the fault of the short, stocky gym lunatics who want stuff tight to show off their muscle. Who. It looks equally stupid. On some stuff I even find the arms are really tight and the rest is loose. The arms are never loose. It's the look the muscle boys want.
I had this with jeans and a jacket over Christmas. Jeans were standard cut, but the arse was baggy and I could take them off done up. Exchanged for a pair of boot cut jeans of the same size, fit perfectly - despite what the OH says, I am too old for skinny jeans although she has bought me a couple of pairs in the past that fit ok (except they grip the calves uncomfortably fir my liking) if I am stupid enough to wear them.
Jacket. Slim fit. Was always going to be a challenge. Went up a size in slim fit, still tight across the back, front of shoulders and top of arms. Also short in the arms. Changed for a standard fit, fits well.
It seems that we are expected to be fat down lower and built like stick insects above the waist. The cut makes a world of difference it seems.
Jacket. Slim fit. Was always going to be a challenge. Went up a size in slim fit, still tight across the back, front of shoulders and top of arms. Also short in the arms. Changed for a standard fit, fits well.
It seems that we are expected to be fat down lower and built like stick insects above the waist. The cut makes a world of difference it seems.
When I was buying my first 'business' suits, I had a (measured) 48" chest and a 32" waist, and to make matters worse, I preferred the style of double breasted suits (you all remember the film Wall Street right?).
The only answer (budget wise) was mix and match at Dunn & Co. Even then I had to have some tailoring done to both jacket and trousers.
These days it could lead one to M&S I suppose as a starting point.
For some of us, the only answer to off the peg clothes, will be a bit of tailoring post purchase.
Not so easily done for a lot of casual wear, especially jeans, but it's surprising what improvements can be made for £10 - £20 by a decent tailor (excluding jeans).
To make that work well, you need to make sure you get a good fit on the bits that can't be altered easily, and oversize the bits that can.
Almost anything can be taken in, few things can be expanded.
It really helps to find a tailor that 'gets it', and will look at each garment in total for you.
Not just trouser waist and leg length, but how it fits from top to bottom. Baggy backsides and top of leg are to be avoided as well of course, and are just as easily remedied.
As an example (having no idea of your normal budget);
Charles Tyrwhitt and Hawes & Curtis offer 5 shirts for £100.
Not top drawer, but far from rubbish. At £20 each, spending another £5-£10 each is unlikely to break the bank when compared to many others including M&S or John Lewis.
At 14.5 stone with a 44" jacket being snug, and 34" trousers fitting well in the waist, then I'd say you are unusually well v shaped compared to 'average'.
I recall being told that the average jacket/shirt will be cut to suit a 6" difference between chest and waist, occasionally 8" at the maximum.
The only answer (budget wise) was mix and match at Dunn & Co. Even then I had to have some tailoring done to both jacket and trousers.
These days it could lead one to M&S I suppose as a starting point.
For some of us, the only answer to off the peg clothes, will be a bit of tailoring post purchase.
Not so easily done for a lot of casual wear, especially jeans, but it's surprising what improvements can be made for £10 - £20 by a decent tailor (excluding jeans).
To make that work well, you need to make sure you get a good fit on the bits that can't be altered easily, and oversize the bits that can.
Almost anything can be taken in, few things can be expanded.
It really helps to find a tailor that 'gets it', and will look at each garment in total for you.
Not just trouser waist and leg length, but how it fits from top to bottom. Baggy backsides and top of leg are to be avoided as well of course, and are just as easily remedied.
As an example (having no idea of your normal budget);
Charles Tyrwhitt and Hawes & Curtis offer 5 shirts for £100.
Not top drawer, but far from rubbish. At £20 each, spending another £5-£10 each is unlikely to break the bank when compared to many others including M&S or John Lewis.
At 14.5 stone with a 44" jacket being snug, and 34" trousers fitting well in the waist, then I'd say you are unusually well v shaped compared to 'average'.
I recall being told that the average jacket/shirt will be cut to suit a 6" difference between chest and waist, occasionally 8" at the maximum.
Perhaps worth noting that "average" in the UK is significantly overweight.
I'm 6 foot and 11 stone and that puts me around the middle of what's considered "healthy" by the NHS and world health organisation. Of course weight isn't everything, but for everyone who's "average" because they're muscular there's 20 people who are average because they're fat.
It sounds like you may well be once of the few though. Having a slim waist and large thighs (assuming they're large through muscle not fat) is good but it's also very rare so I suppose it's not worth mainstream companies making clothes for. You might be best off hunting for a clothing brand that tailors specifically for "sporty" types.
I'm 6 foot and 11 stone and that puts me around the middle of what's considered "healthy" by the NHS and world health organisation. Of course weight isn't everything, but for everyone who's "average" because they're muscular there's 20 people who are average because they're fat.
It sounds like you may well be once of the few though. Having a slim waist and large thighs (assuming they're large through muscle not fat) is good but it's also very rare so I suppose it's not worth mainstream companies making clothes for. You might be best off hunting for a clothing brand that tailors specifically for "sporty" types.
Edited by kambites on Monday 28th December 13:28
Sparkzz said:
Well I've had a measure, fatter than I thought!
38.5 waist
44.5 chest
47 shoulders
16 arm at bicep
N.B. I have coeliac disease, despite the stereotype of skin and bone. I don't lose weight easily at all.
Being a coeliac is easy to get around, listen to a few nutrition podcasts by Phil Learney and you'll be set up!38.5 waist
44.5 chest
47 shoulders
16 arm at bicep
N.B. I have coeliac disease, despite the stereotype of skin and bone. I don't lose weight easily at all.
Edited by Sparkzz on Monday 28th December 14:07
Sparkzz said:
Well I've had a measure, fatter than I thought!
38.5 waist
44.5 chest
47 shoulders
16 arm at bicep
N.B. I have coeliac disease, despite the stereotype of skin and bone. I don't lose weight easily at all.
Hate to say it, whilst you may not be fat, you are not average at that height which is why you don't fit much. I would suggest 34 waist and 40 chest in more average.38.5 waist
44.5 chest
47 shoulders
16 arm at bicep
N.B. I have coeliac disease, despite the stereotype of skin and bone. I don't lose weight easily at all.
Edited by Sparkzz on Monday 28th December 14:07
You need to lose weight. Simple as that.
Sparkzz said:
Well I've had a measure, fatter than I thought!
38.5 waist
44.5 chest
47 shoulders
16 arm at bicep
N.B. I have coeliac disease, despite the stereotype of skin and bone. I don't lose weight easily at all.
38.5 waist
44.5 chest
47 shoulders
16 arm at bicep
N.B. I have coeliac disease, despite the stereotype of skin and bone. I don't lose weight easily at all.
Edited by Sparkzz on Monday 28th December 14:07
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