Why do people glamorise bad people?
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Just reading about the real Wolf of Wall Street...and people are like "he is so cool" etc...a guy who stole $100m+ from vulnerable people is cool?
People think the Hatton Garden Robbers are "heros" and should walk free.
People absolutely idolise s
t like "The Essex boys"...guys who went round fking innocents up...
W H Y
People think the Hatton Garden Robbers are "heros" and should walk free.
People absolutely idolise s
t like "The Essex boys"...guys who went round fking innocents up...W H Y
It doesn't seem to be a new thing;
The Krays
The 'great' train robbers
Bonny and Clyde
Billy the kid
The lower orders of human intelligence have always loved and glorified the utter scum.
But it does seem (IMO) to stem from the popular press who often glorify these monsters, and leave out or even lie about their deeds and the circumstances.
And then there is the (almost a genre of) films and television series that seek to glorify and even justify gangsters and thieves.
It has existed almost from the beginning (of film) with the early Cagney, Robinson, Bogart films. The difference then was that justice always prevailed. Now the scum 'heroes' are played off the screen to our favourite classic rock tunes and it's all 'cool'.
The Krays
The 'great' train robbers
Bonny and Clyde
Billy the kid
The lower orders of human intelligence have always loved and glorified the utter scum.
But it does seem (IMO) to stem from the popular press who often glorify these monsters, and leave out or even lie about their deeds and the circumstances.
And then there is the (almost a genre of) films and television series that seek to glorify and even justify gangsters and thieves.
It has existed almost from the beginning (of film) with the early Cagney, Robinson, Bogart films. The difference then was that justice always prevailed. Now the scum 'heroes' are played off the screen to our favourite classic rock tunes and it's all 'cool'.
twoblacklines said:
Just reading about the real Wolf of Wall Street...and people are like "he is so cool" etc...a guy who stole $100m+ from vulnerable people is cool?
People think the Hatton Garden Robbers are "heros" and should walk free.
People absolutely idolise st like "The Essex boys"...guys who went round fking innocents up...
W H Y
Because people as a collective are thick as fPeople think the Hatton Garden Robbers are "heros" and should walk free.
People absolutely idolise s
t like "The Essex boys"...guys who went round fking innocents up...W H Y
k. Whats reassuring is their vote counts the same as yours :wink:There was a nice little documentary series on BBC 4 a few weeks before Christmas about the "glamourised rogues and vagabonds" of olden times i.e. highwaymen and pirates,
And, don'tr forget, a lot of the "legendary" figures of the American Wild West were cattle thieves, crooks and murderers.
And, don'tr forget, a lot of the "legendary" figures of the American Wild West were cattle thieves, crooks and murderers.
. twoblacklines said:
Just reading about the real Wolf of Wall Street...and people are like "he is so cool" etc...a guy who stole $100m+ from vulnerable people is cool?
People think the Hatton Garden Robbers are "heros" and should walk free.
People absolutely idolise st like "The Essex boys"...guys who went round fking innocents up...
W H Y
Because in a violent, capitalistic, hustling society, money and power are the end goals for many people. People think the Hatton Garden Robbers are "heros" and should walk free.
People absolutely idolise s
t like "The Essex boys"...guys who went round fking innocents up...W H Y
scherzkeks said:
What happens when "The Man" is corrupt, dishonest, criminal, etc.? Robin Hood doesn't fit here.
You'll have to rephrase that:What government hasn't got a certain degree of corruption, criminality and dishonesty going on?
I think the Star Wars analogy is a good one: they're idolising the rebels? They killed loads and cost billions in material damage, yet they're the heroes?
An exception, it can be said, would be the 'so called' CEO within the banks, most having been cleansed by now, hopefully. Will the likes of Fred the Shred ever be glamorised, nope likely despised.
As an aside Nick Leeson is doing the rounds lecturing on why bankers should not be naughty boys and girls at their work desks. He can certainly speak from experience!
As an aside Nick Leeson is doing the rounds lecturing on why bankers should not be naughty boys and girls at their work desks. He can certainly speak from experience!
ZesPak said:
You'll have to rephrase that:
What government hasn't got a certain degree of corruption, criminality and dishonesty going on?
I think the Star Wars analogy is a good one: they're idolising the rebels? They killed loads and cost billions in material damage, yet they're the heroes?
I think people are ignoring the little fact of the Empire obliterating Alderaan and it's 2billion populace first. What government hasn't got a certain degree of corruption, criminality and dishonesty going on?
I think the Star Wars analogy is a good one: they're idolising the rebels? They killed loads and cost billions in material damage, yet they're the heroes?
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