Kids and technology
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surveyor

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18,705 posts

215 months

Saturday 27th February 2016
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It's amazing how the get on with each other. I'm not sure if it's me losing the will as I get older, but my daughter really get's it.

I suspect this is a kids thing in general?

Today's little project. She's done this on her ipad, using an app that she's had a couple of days only.


https://youtu.be/gieBhigS8PY

simoid

19,774 posts

189 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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I remember being much better than my parents with my PlayStation when it came out in 1996 or whatever. Instantly. Similarly when we got the computer in the house around the same time. Similarly, my grandad never could work the TV beyond on and off and 5 channels. IIRC most of us are at our peak technological awareness and prowess at 17 and it declines from there.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

265 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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In the eighties and early nineties there was a roaring trade in bedroom-produced software. Spotty oiks writing things like Skool Daze and the like. That was a good example of nerdism and kids being good with technology.

Prodding things on an iPad is not a good example of kids being good with technology. That's a good example of hand eye coordination.

That's not me having a pop at your offspring, merely an observation that it's incredibly easy to do things like this now. Frankly, I'd be worried if a child couldn't produce videos like that in a few minutes. Everyone has applications available that do all the hard work (which is kinda their point). There's GarageBand to make music and Instagram to make your photos look terrible.

Want to save yourself from having to learn to do something complex? There's an app for that.

steveatesh

5,379 posts

195 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Rawwr said:
Want to save yourself from having to learn to do something complex? There's an app for that.
Such as this one?:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3465711/...

DukeDickson

5,063 posts

244 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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There's a lot of you losing your will, inclination, available time, patience and so on.

As long as it doesn't veer too far into techy realms, it is probably less difficult, or noteworthy on your daughters front (not meaning to be disparaging towards her, just you, a bit, hehe) than you probably imagine.

TwigtheWonderkid

49,218 posts

181 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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But it doesn't teach me how to train my dog. It just shows me how well your daughter has trained hers. I was misled into thinking I was going to be taught how to do it, and now I'm traumatised. Just makes me feel worse that I can't train mine. I want compo!

C.A.R.

3,993 posts

219 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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It is amazing how quickly they pick it up - my daughter learned how to swipe an ipad or smart phone in order to scroll through pictures before she was 2!

You do worry about their social skills falling behind though, particularly my nephews who spend hours on end glued to their screens only to come off and go on the Xbox. That's why we bought them Nerf guns for Christmas and went round to declare war!

Sheepshanks

41,299 posts

150 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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C.A.R. said:
It is amazing how quickly they pick it up - my daughter learned how to swipe an ipad or smart phone in order to scroll through pictures before she was 2!
From watching grandchildren they know where the home button is and how to swipe to unlock before they're 1. At two they've memorised the positions of the numbers to unlock their mum's phone - you have to be careful to keep them away from others as they'll lock them.

I give them my old Blackberry for a laugh - drives 'em mad! hehe

Ari

19,828 posts

246 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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C.A.R. said:
You do worry about their social skills falling behind though, particularly my nephews who spend hours on end glued to their screens only to come off and go on the Xbox. That's why we bought them Nerf guns for Christmas and went round to declare war!
Absolutely this. Seen it first hand unfortunately. Computing at 19, genius. Social skills, zero.

Hoofy

80,158 posts

313 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Rawwr said:
In the eighties and early nineties there was a roaring trade in bedroom-produced software. Spotty oiks writing things like Skool Daze and the like. That was a good example of nerdism and kids being good with technology.

Prodding things on an iPad is not a good example of kids being good with technology. That's a good example of hand eye coordination.

That's not me having a pop at your offspring, merely an observation that it's incredibly easy to do things like this now. Frankly, I'd be worried if a child couldn't produce videos like that in a few minutes. Everyone has applications available that do all the hard work (which is kinda their point). There's GarageBand to make music and Instagram to make your photos look terrible.

Want to save yourself from having to learn to do something complex? There's an app for that.
yes

Back in the 80s when you played with a home computer, you were almost encouraged to try to program. If you bought a magazine you couldn't miss lines of code and you only had to have some imagination to start thinking that you could possibly write something yourself.

Modern tech is just a poor version of a babysitter.

I would also limit how much a child has to such tech:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/10196489/iPa...
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/01/...

Hoofy

80,158 posts

313 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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C.A.R. said:
It is amazing how quickly they pick it up - my daughter learned how to swipe an ipad or smart phone in order to scroll through pictures before she was 2!

You do worry about their social skills falling behind though, particularly my nephews who spend hours on end glued to their screens only to come off and go on the Xbox. That's why we bought them Nerf guns for Christmas and went round to declare war!
thumbup Smart idea! Gets them moving as well.

steveatesh

5,379 posts

195 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Hoofy said:
yes

Back in the 80s when you played with a home computer, you were almost encouraged to try to program. If you bought a magazine you couldn't miss lines of code and you only had to have some imagination to start thinking that you could possibly write something yourself.

Modern tech is just a poor version of a babysitter.

I would also limit how much a child has to such tech:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/10196489/iPa...
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/feb/01/...
Lol This brought back memories of buying AMOS basic for the Amiga, me opening the box fully expecting to be producing the next Alien Breed within a few hours.

After an hour or so I decided to put the kettle on instead and have a nice cup of tea.

Rawwr

22,722 posts

265 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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Hoofy said:
The iVocabulary. Making something complex like language into just four or five convenient, easy-to-use words.

Instead of an iPad, why not give them all 7 books from the Narnia series? That'd keep them busy for a while. They may even come out of it with an imagination or something.

surveyor

Original Poster:

18,705 posts

215 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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The thread amuses me.

I assume that we've hit the technological version of the Monty Python sketch when I were a lad....

As it happened I was pretty busy yesterday, so she was entertaining herself.

She came up with the app, the concept, did the filming and the production with no input from me. I do think that is using her imagination.


bristolracer

5,955 posts

180 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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When I get clients who say they wont ever get how to use their sky box or other AV stuff I tell them to ask their children!

Children have no conditioning about pushing buttons,they will push a button to see what it does,as we get older I think we fear pushing the button in case it all stops and we can't get it going again.

Hoofy

80,158 posts

313 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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bristolracer said:
When I get clients who say they wont ever get how to use their sky box or other AV stuff I tell them to ask their children!

Children have no conditioning about pushing buttons,they will push a button to see what it does,as we get older I think we fear pushing the button in case it all stops and we can't get it going again.
I think it's called experience not fear. biggrin

1 minute of pushing randomly thinking "Cool!", 2 hours of ballache having to reinstall and reset st.

smifffymoto

5,186 posts

236 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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My kids can do anything with Tech but can't put a drill bit in a chuck for love or money.

anonymous-user

85 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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We're heading here folks, enjoy it while you can smile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Machine_Stops

227bhp

10,203 posts

159 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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surveyor said:
I'm not sure if it's me losing the will as I get older, but my daughter really get's it.
She seems pretty bright, ask her to teach you about apostrophes. wink

Blown2CV

31,662 posts

234 months

Sunday 28th February 2016
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kids haven't yet learned to be apprehensive or afraid of trial and error, and they don't have a model in their head that they have to accommodate all the new things that come along into. Adults are held back because they have a model of how something works, so when something better comes along, unless they are technically-minded, they don't know what to do with it because their entire model can be challenged. Just like how adults have become scared of climbing trees, we become scared of clicking the wrong thing and deleting everything, or breaking this expensive device in some way. Kids don't have anything they would be scared to lose, and also never had to pay for the damn thing in the first place!