DVLA upto no good again.
DVLA upto no good again.
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PAULJ5555

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3,554 posts

207 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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This time its telling its staff not to go against the governments stance on the EU.

How can an employer do this.


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/dvla-st...

Foliage

3,861 posts

153 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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PAULJ5555 said:
This time its telling its staff not to go against the governments stance on the EU.

How can an employer do this.


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/dvla-st...
Sounds fair enough to me

ReallyReallyGood

1,641 posts

161 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Foliage said:
PAULJ5555 said:
This time its telling its staff not to go against the governments stance on the EU.

How can an employer do this.


http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/dvla-st...
Sounds fair enough to me
Work for the DVLA by any chance? wink

PAULJ5555

Original Poster:

3,554 posts

207 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Foliage said:
Sounds fair enough to me
I don't see it the same, you are entitled to a vote and you can voice the reasons why in a public manner if you want, as long as you do not show bad light on the DVLA as an employee you are entitled to comment/discuss what ever you want.

MarkwG

5,945 posts

220 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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PAULJ5555 said:
I don't see it the same, you are entitled to a vote and you can voice the reasons why in a public manner if you want, as long as you do not show bad light on the DVLA as an employee you are entitled to comment/discuss what ever you want.
If you work for a company & you can be identified as such, you may be seen by others as representing its views, rather than your own. You're entitled to vote however you like, it's a secret ballot for a reason, but publishing an opinion either way would be foolhardy. Most organisations have similar clauses in their employment contracts, best to read it before you sign...

Foliage

3,861 posts

153 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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PAULJ5555 said:
Foliage said:
Sounds fair enough to me
I don't see it the same, you are entitled to a vote and you can voice the reasons why in a public manner if you want, as long as you do not show bad light on the DVLA as an employee you are entitled to comment/discuss what ever you want.
But working for the DVLA you work for the government. If you worked for a major corporation and said the its latest special offer/project in a public forum wasn't very good you'd get into trouble for it.

Works the same in my eyes. If you don't agree with the company direction you leave or you keep your gob shut in public.

crankedup

25,764 posts

274 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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Foliage said:
PAULJ5555 said:
Foliage said:
Sounds fair enough to me
I don't see it the same, you are entitled to a vote and you can voice the reasons why in a public manner if you want, as long as you do not show bad light on the DVLA as an employee you are entitled to comment/discuss what ever you want.
But working for the DVLA you work for the government. If you worked for a major corporation and said the its latest special offer/project in a public forum wasn't very good you'd get into trouble for it.

Works the same in my eyes. If you don't agree with the company direction you leave or you keep your gob shut in public.
Going by this half the population would be unable to voice their opinion. (obviously nobody should badmouth an employer) fortunately we still live in a democratic free society therefore free speech is allowed.

Blaster72

12,706 posts

228 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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article says said:
Staff have been emailed and given a string of instructions about doing anything that “contradicts the government’s official position on EU membership”.
and that official position is?? Why does it matter when the referendum is for the population to decide NOT the government.

Sump

5,512 posts

198 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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crankedup said:
Foliage said:
PAULJ5555 said:
Foliage said:
Sounds fair enough to me
I don't see it the same, you are entitled to a vote and you can voice the reasons why in a public manner if you want, as long as you do not show bad light on the DVLA as an employee you are entitled to comment/discuss what ever you want.
But working for the DVLA you work for the government. If you worked for a major corporation and said the its latest special offer/project in a public forum wasn't very good you'd get into trouble for it.

Works the same in my eyes. If you don't agree with the company direction you leave or you keep your gob shut in public.
Going by this half the population would be unable to voice their opinion. (obviously nobody should badmouth an employer) fortunately we still live in a democratic free society therefore free speech is allowed.
Ofcourse free speech is allowed, just don't be surprised if you get canned for it. To be clear no one is stopping free speech, there is just a highlight there will be consequences for it.

MentalSarcasm

6,083 posts

242 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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anonymous said:
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Bingo. I used to work in the Civil Service and every so often an email would be circulated reminding us that "elections are coming up and we remind you that as a Civil Servant you are expected to be politically neutral in all communications with the public etc etc". This does indeed include your own personal social media accounts as it's often difficult to get the privacy settings right to make sure that you're not broadcasting to friends of friends. This was true even if it was a tiny little bi-election at the other side of the country.

Frankly I'm surprised it was only sent to "junior management positions and above" as ours used to be sent across the entire Civil Service.

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

195 months

Wednesday 2nd March 2016
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But what is he Government stance ? We know the PM view but also know there are ministers and MPs who support the opposite?
If for example the transport secretary or minister was a leave politician would that mean they would have to support that?
Free vote should mean free speech in my view.