Selling cigars
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My partner's father recently passed away and when going through the flat we have found about 1500 cigars. Nothing special,but bought over several years worth of trips to Portugal.
It's a few too many to just give away - any ideas where we could sell them or at least not give them away?
SD.
It's a few too many to just give away - any ideas where we could sell them or at least not give them away?
SD.
shed driver said:
My partner's father recently passed away and when going through the flat we have found about 1500 cigars. Nothing special,but bought over several years worth of trips to Portugal.
It's a few too many to just give away - any ideas where we could sell them or at least not give them away?
You can't, legally. Not without paying UK duty on them.It's a few too many to just give away - any ideas where we could sell them or at least not give them away?
Judging by posts on "local" Facebook pages, you can sell any amount of whatever type of tobacco you wish on there with impunity.
I know of people who have contact numbers they just call when they want to buy tobacco, no idea how the network works, and clearly it's not exactly legal, but if you ask around I imagine you'll find a market for them.
I know of people who have contact numbers they just call when they want to buy tobacco, no idea how the network works, and clearly it's not exactly legal, but if you ask around I imagine you'll find a market for them.
TooMany2cvs said:
shed driver said:
My partner's father recently passed away and when going through the flat we have found about 1500 cigars. Nothing special,but bought over several years worth of trips to Portugal.
It's a few too many to just give away - any ideas where we could sell them or at least not give them away?
You can't, legally. Not without paying UK duty on them.It's a few too many to just give away - any ideas where we could sell them or at least not give them away?
I know that C.Gars have a specialist auction for higher-end stuff ( http://www.cigarauctions.co.uk), which while from the sounds of it, isn't what you need, perhaps if you dropped them a line and asked the question, they could recommend someone for you to contact?
Roo said:
If they haven't been stored properly they go off so may be worth nothing.
I'm afraid this will be the issue for most regular cigar smokers / buyers.Even left 'sealed' in their original boxes, they soon start to dry out and lose the natural oils that give them their flavour and smoking properties.
That said, if they have been properly stored, some cigars can be worth quite a bit more than their original selling price.
You haven't said if they were stored in a humidor of some kind?
It's hard to imagine someone collecting 1500 cigars and not having a humidor to keep them in.
TooMany2cvs said:
You can't, legally. Not without paying UK duty on them.
Is that not just the case if you actually imported them? The OP has inherited the cigars and so I do not think that he would be liable for any duty. This is just speculation on my part, I do not have any specific experience of HMRC's views.
Roo said:
If they haven't been stored properly they go off so may be worth nothing.
This is probably your biggest problem. My father in law had some Cohibas that were given to him as a present from none other than Fidel Castro (long story, not that interesting). They were left int he box and shoved in a drawer. We tried smoking them one Christmas and they had completely dried out and were horrid.The rum he got at the same time was fine though
BlueHave said:
TooMany2cvs said:
shed driver said:
My partner's father recently passed away and when going through the flat we have found about 1500 cigars. Nothing special,but bought over several years worth of trips to Portugal.
It's a few too many to just give away - any ideas where we could sell them or at least not give them away?
You can't, legally. Not without paying UK duty on them.It's a few too many to just give away - any ideas where we could sell them or at least not give them away?
It's an interesting situation. You aren't able to personally import tobacco from the EU with the intention of selling it. The OP's father did not do so. It's part of his estate, which he owned and imported legally. It's now the property of the benefactors of the estate. They didn't import it. Is it therefore theirs to do with as they please, including selling it?
I suspect that it's such an edge case that HMRC wouldn't be that interested, but...
I suspect that it's such an edge case that HMRC wouldn't be that interested, but...
otolith said:
It's an interesting situation. You aren't able to personally import tobacco from the EU with the intention of selling it. The OP's father did not do so. It's part of his estate, which he owned and imported legally. It's now the property of the benefactors of the estate. They didn't import it. Is it therefore theirs to do with as they please, including selling it?
No, because tobacco can only be legally sold in the UK if it's had full UK duty paid on it, no matter how it's been imported. This tobacco hasn't had UK duty paid. It might have had the Spanish duty paid, but that's different.The beneficiaries of the estate can have it for personal consumption, but they can't legally sell it. Even if it's worth selling.
TooMany2cvs said:
otolith said:
It's an interesting situation. You aren't able to personally import tobacco from the EU with the intention of selling it. The OP's father did not do so. It's part of his estate, which he owned and imported legally. It's now the property of the benefactors of the estate. They didn't import it. Is it therefore theirs to do with as they please, including selling it?
No, because tobacco can only be legally sold in the UK if it's had full UK duty paid on it, no matter how it's been imported. This tobacco hasn't had UK duty paid. It might have had the Spanish duty paid, but that's different.The beneficiaries of the estate can have it for personal consumption, but they can't legally sell it. Even if it's worth selling.
otolith said:
TooMany2cvs said:
otolith said:
It's an interesting situation. You aren't able to personally import tobacco from the EU with the intention of selling it. The OP's father did not do so. It's part of his estate, which he owned and imported legally. It's now the property of the benefactors of the estate. They didn't import it. Is it therefore theirs to do with as they please, including selling it?
No, because tobacco can only be legally sold in the UK if it's had full UK duty paid on it, no matter how it's been imported. This tobacco hasn't had UK duty paid. It might have had the Spanish duty paid, but that's different.The beneficiaries of the estate can have it for personal consumption, but they can't legally sell it. Even if it's worth selling.
Bebs said:
Big Al. said:
lists please or the thread will be deemed an advert and get pulled."...nor do we allow members to post asking for valuations on their current car (please use the classifieds as a guide)."
As long as you aren't asking for a car valuation it should be okay? No?
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