Holding a pen oddly.
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Stemming from the knife 'n' fork thread...
I often notice people (left or right -handed) holding their pen/ pencil in away that seems distinctly kack- handed to me.
I hold a pen with the barrel resting in the groove between my 1st and 2nd finger. My thumb holds it in the groove so the cap end/shaft of the barrel sits against knuckle 1.
Some hold the implement between thumb and forefinger, folding pinkies 2, 3 & 4 in. It's how I might hold a tiny paintbrush for fine work.
How about you?
PS, my hand writing's practically indecipherable, I could've been a doctor.
I often notice people (left or right -handed) holding their pen/ pencil in away that seems distinctly kack- handed to me.
I hold a pen with the barrel resting in the groove between my 1st and 2nd finger. My thumb holds it in the groove so the cap end/shaft of the barrel sits against knuckle 1.
Some hold the implement between thumb and forefinger, folding pinkies 2, 3 & 4 in. It's how I might hold a tiny paintbrush for fine work.
How about you?
PS, my hand writing's practically indecipherable, I could've been a doctor.
davhill said:
Stemming from the knife 'n' fork thread...
I often notice people (left or right -handed) holding their pen/ pencil in away that seems distinctly kack- handed to me.
I hold a pen with the barrel resting in the groove between my 1st and 2nd finger. My thumb holds it in the groove so the cap end/shaft of the barrel sits against knuckle 1.
Some hold the implement between thumb and forefinger, folding pinkies 2, 3 & 4 in. It's how I might hold a tiny paintbrush for fine work.
How about you?
PS, my hand writing's practically indecipherable, I could've been a doctor.
I hold it the same as you, my writing also looks like a spider has fallen in an ink well and ran across the paper.I often notice people (left or right -handed) holding their pen/ pencil in away that seems distinctly kack- handed to me.
I hold a pen with the barrel resting in the groove between my 1st and 2nd finger. My thumb holds it in the groove so the cap end/shaft of the barrel sits against knuckle 1.
Some hold the implement between thumb and forefinger, folding pinkies 2, 3 & 4 in. It's how I might hold a tiny paintbrush for fine work.
How about you?
PS, my hand writing's practically indecipherable, I could've been a doctor.
Perhaps we're the ones holding it wrong?
I blame my poor handwriting on years of dictation in Comprehensive then an immediate lack of use over the last 14 years, I mostly use computers these days.
I have considered a writing course.
ZOLLAR said:
I hold it the same as you, my writing also looks like a spider has fallen in an ink well and ran across the paper.
Perhaps we're the ones holding it wrong?
I blame my poor handwriting on years of dictation in Comprehensive then an immediate lack of use over the last 14 years, I mostly use computers these days.
I have considered a writing course.
I have very crabbed handwriting that is a bit spiky - I often struggle to decipher it myself! Most of the problem lies in trying to write too quickly.Perhaps we're the ones holding it wrong?
I blame my poor handwriting on years of dictation in Comprehensive then an immediate lack of use over the last 14 years, I mostly use computers these days.
I have considered a writing course.
Around millennium time a I had to take five, three - hour exams for my OU Masters (psych). There was no option other than to use block caps. In the end, I got a seg on knuckle 2, not to mention writer's cramp. Still, I passed it and the foundation and BSC hons before it.
I use block caps in my diary too, as well as on notes, shopping lists. Heaven knows what'd happen if I didn't. Will a cat eat fish food?
Robbo 27 said:
If you want to improve your handwriting get yourself a fountain pen and just practice, ideally an older pen with a bit of flex to the nib but almost anything will do.
Agree! Biros ball type pens are the bane to good pen craftsmanship IMO - when inkpot disappeared so did my penmanship.That's my excuse and am sticking to it.
I hold mine wrong. I grip it between my thumb and first finger tips, with the rest of my fingers curled underneath,and rest the barrel halfway up my middle finger. Probably can't picture that from reading it though.
My teacher noticed I held it wrong but said my handwriting was beautiful so she didn't think it was worth trying to get me to change it.
People holding their cutlery wrong really winds me up though. Maybe I'm a hypocrite. Haha.
My teacher noticed I held it wrong but said my handwriting was beautiful so she didn't think it was worth trying to get me to change it.
People holding their cutlery wrong really winds me up though. Maybe I'm a hypocrite. Haha.
Laurel Green said:
Robbo 27 said:
If you want to improve your handwriting get yourself a fountain pen and just practice, ideally an older pen with a bit of flex to the nib but almost anything will do.
Agree! Biros ball type pens are the bane to good pen craftsmanship IMO - when inkpot disappeared so did my penmanship.That's my excuse and am sticking to it.
We had to know how to hold a pen. It was drummed into you at primary school. If you got it wrong, you got rapped on the knuckles. Wouldn't be allowed today- poor little mites, wrap them in cotton wool.
I have bought, sold, collected and repaired pens for many years, my handwriting is terrible with a biro but good with a proper pen, I have seen so many pen holding styles, almost take the view that it doesnt matter.
The most impressive was someone who held a pen in each hand and wrote different words at the same time.
The most impressive was someone who held a pen in each hand and wrote different words at the same time.
davhill said:
Stemming from the knife 'n' fork thread...
I often notice people (left or right -handed) holding their pen/ pencil in away that seems distinctly kack- handed to me.
I hold a pen with the barrel resting in the groove between my 1st and 2nd finger. My thumb holds it in the groove so the cap end/shaft of the barrel sits against knuckle 1.
Some hold the implement between thumb and forefinger, folding pinkies 2, 3 & 4 in. It's how I might hold a tiny paintbrush for fine work.
How about you?
PS, my hand writing's practically indecipherable, I could've been a doctor.
Sorry I am trying to work out what you mean so forgive me.I often notice people (left or right -handed) holding their pen/ pencil in away that seems distinctly kack- handed to me.
I hold a pen with the barrel resting in the groove between my 1st and 2nd finger. My thumb holds it in the groove so the cap end/shaft of the barrel sits against knuckle 1.
Some hold the implement between thumb and forefinger, folding pinkies 2, 3 & 4 in. It's how I might hold a tiny paintbrush for fine work.
How about you?
PS, my hand writing's practically indecipherable, I could've been a doctor.
This is how as a lefty I hold a pen.
And my hand writing is very good, I do not smear pages or write right to left. I also do not change the mouse buttons around even being a lefty as left is left and right is right.
nicanary said:
We had to know how to hold a pen. It was drummed into you at primary school. If you got it wrong, you got rapped on the knuckles. Wouldn't be allowed today- poor little mites, wrap them in cotton wool.
Damn right too. I've never liked the idea of grown adults hitting small children with a piece of wood. Call me old fashioned.Allanv said:
Sorry I am trying to work out what you mean so forgive me.
This is how as a lefty I hold a pen.
And my hand writing is very good, I do not smear pages or write right to left. I also do not change the mouse buttons around even being a lefty as left is left and right is right.
The piccy is of the thimb/forefinger grip - just imagine the other fingers curled in more and the pn barrel resting along the forefinger. Then you'll get the idea.This is how as a lefty I hold a pen.
And my hand writing is very good, I do not smear pages or write right to left. I also do not change the mouse buttons around even being a lefty as left is left and right is right.
I can't write using this grip - I've tried!
Edited by davhill on Saturday 16th July 17:57
Laurel Green said:
Robbo 27 said:
If you want to improve your handwriting get yourself a fountain pen and just practice, ideally an older pen with a bit of flex to the nib but almost anything will do.
Agree! Biros ball type pens are the bane to good pen craftsmanship IMO - when inkpot disappeared so did my penmanship.That's my excuse and am sticking to it.
davhill said:
Allanv said:
Sorry I am trying to work out what you mean so forgive me.
This is how as a lefty I hold a pen.
And my hand writing is very good, I do not smear pages or write right to left. I also do not change the mouse buttons around even being a lefty as left is left and right is right.
The piccy is of the thimb/forefinger grip - just imagine the other fingers curled in more and the pn barrel resting along the forefinger. Then you'll get the idea.This is how as a lefty I hold a pen.
And my hand writing is very good, I do not smear pages or write right to left. I also do not change the mouse buttons around even being a lefty as left is left and right is right.
I can't write using this grip - I've tried!
Edited by davhill on Saturday 16th July 17:57
To be fair if it is comfortable and you can read what you write then does it matter? If your preferred approach means you are like a spider on speed then maybe you need to change.
Allanv said:
So is my preferred position what you would call kack handed? Would you mind posting a picture as I still am unsure what you mean.
To be fair if it is comfortable and you can read what you write then does it matter? If your preferred approach means you are like a spider on speed then maybe you need to change.
I write like this...To be fair if it is comfortable and you can read what you write then does it matter? If your preferred approach means you are like a spider on speed then maybe you need to change.
...but can't write like this (clicky & invert).
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To be fair, I'm neater with a fountain pen...and if I concentrate on going slowly.
I am left handed. I had to learn at a young age how to write without smudging my work (some lefties write 'upside down') I ended up developing quite an odd grip, I have tried to alter it as if I do a lot of writing I end up with a callus on my middle finger. My Mum also tried to correct it to no avail, she cannot stand watching me write!!
bexVN said:
I am left handed. I had to learn at a young age how to write without smudging my work (some lefties write 'upside down') I ended up developing quite an odd grip, I have tried to alter it as if I do a lot of writing I end up with a callus on my middle finger. My Mum also tried to correct it to no avail, she cannot stand watching me write!!
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