How do the emergency services know who to contact?
How do the emergency services know who to contact?
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Mr MXT

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7,794 posts

313 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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Slightly morbid thoughts this morning - say I'm out in the car and have an accident rendering me in a critical condition - how do the 999's know who my next of kin is to inform?

Company Car reg --> lease company --> employer --> employer records?
Fun car --> DVLA --> electoral role --> assume the person i live with is my next of kin?

I know there is the "ICE" thing, but that cant work if your phone has a PIN, which I'm sure most do.

Anyone know the process?

MyVTECGoesBwaaah

824 posts

172 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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Mr MXT said:
I know there is the "ICE" thing, but that cant work if your phone has a PIN, which I'm sure most do.
That is the whole point of the "In Case of Emergency Contact"/ICE, you can call them without it being unlocked. There should be a button somewhere on that screen which you can use. smile

red_slr

20,895 posts

219 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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Mobile finger print terminal is generally a good one - if you have a record.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

130 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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If I am out in the car, I generally have my wallet with me, which has some ID with it saying where I live, although my cars are registered to me as well. Also there is a photo in my wallet of my wife and I on our wedding day so hopefully they would make that connection

I hope not to have to find out.

IIIRestorerIII

845 posts

258 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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Mr MXT said:
I know there is the "ICE" thing, but that cant work if your phone has a PIN, which I'm sure most do.
Input emergency details in the Health App on the iPhone. That becomes available without having to unlock the phone. There may be something similar on Android too.

ApOrbital

10,592 posts

148 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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I have my insurance details in the car.

Mr MXT

Original Poster:

7,794 posts

313 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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IIIRestorerIII said:
Input emergency details in the Health App on the iPhone. That becomes available without having to unlock the phone. There may be something similar on Android too.
I didnt know that, updated. Thanks!

RizzoTheRat

29,062 posts

222 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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On android if you enter info in the ICE section of your contacts there should then be an ICE button on the lock screen. Can't dial from it on mine (although that might be a setting somewhere) but it'll display the contacts name and numbers

red_slr said:
Mobile finger print terminal is generally a good one - if you have a record.
My phone has a fingerprint scanner to unlock it so in theory someone could still use that biggrin


Of course there's a good chance the phone wouldn't survive a serious accident either, in which case they're back to tracing me via the DVLA. Alternatively if they find my wallet there's loads of ways to trace me (drivers licence, credit/bank cards, business cards)

Edited by RizzoTheRat on Friday 5th August 11:43

parabolica

7,018 posts

214 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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Was thinking the same thing the other day. A few years ago my flat was burgled and my flat mate assaulted whilst I was at work. My mobile was switched off but still the police were able to zero in on where I work (presumably my flat mate told them) and then get my direct dial number (no idea as we don't have a reception/switchboard - it goes to the US where it's an automated system that doesn't give out contact details). It was kind of spooky when they managed to get though.

Monkeylegend

29,523 posts

261 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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Doesn't anybody carry their driving licence about with them anymore?

Mr MXT

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7,794 posts

313 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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Monkeylegend said:
Doesn't anybody carry their driving licence about with them anymore?
yes, which says who I am, but that wasn't my question.

Once I'm identified, how do they know who to inform?

Ki3r

8,902 posts

189 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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Mr MXT said:
yes, which says who I am, but that wasn't my question.

Once I'm identified, how do they know who to inform?
Knock on the door, see who answers and ask if they are related to Mr MXT. If they are, explain whats happened, if they aren't (old address for example), enquires continue (insurance address perhaps).

callmedave

2,686 posts

175 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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Assuming they know who you are, I would assume the police would have info on most of us and who we are related to.

Failing that go to your address and see who answers the door, ask neighbors etc

Failing that, contact Birth deaths marriages and find out who your parents were.

Failing that.. not too sure.

RizzoTheRat

29,062 posts

222 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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Does the organ donor register include next of kin details? Trying to think who else I might have given it to; employers, insurance company?

battered

4,088 posts

177 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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RizzoTheRat said:
Does the organ donor register include next of kin details? Trying to think who else I might have given it to; employers, insurance company?
Yes it does. So do employers. The Plod will also get your phone and ring "Mum and Dad".

SHutchinson

2,384 posts

214 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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I quite often go out running with nothing on me other than a Garmin watch. I almost got knocked down a few months ago and it made me realise that I would make a very hard person to identify/find next of kin for. I was thinking of getting a dog tag or similar with an ICE contact on.

(I'm sure this product already exists without Googling it, I'm just too lazy to sort it out!)

surveyor

18,705 posts

214 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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I'm thinking as the Police sometimes want to find people who do not want to be found, that finding people and their relatives who are not in hiding must be relatively straighforward.

Certainly when my dozy dad did a drive-off from a Petrol station (after filling up on the other side of a pump to a Policeman, who was most amused), they tracked him down to his office (where the car was not registered) pretty quickly. All sorted, but showed they have their ways.

RizzoTheRat

29,062 posts

222 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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SHutchinson said:
I quite often go out running with nothing on me other than a Garmin watch. I almost got knocked down a few months ago and it made me realise that I would make a very hard person to identify/find next of kin for. I was thinking of getting a dog tag or similar with an ICE contact on.

(I'm sure this product already exists without Googling it, I'm just too lazy to sort it out!)
My Garmin 610 has a function to navigate (ish, range and bearing) back to the start point, but would depend on someone knowing how to use it.

If you're a parkrunner you can get tags with your barcode and ICE details on, I have them laced in to all my trainers so I never forget my barcode http://www.parkrun-barcode.org.uk/parkrun-barcode-...

axgizmo

1,095 posts

183 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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With you being in a company car, I imagine they would contact your company, give the Reg, ask for your name and your next of kins name/s.

I'm sure my work have the details of my next of kin

battered

4,088 posts

177 months

Friday 5th August 2016
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SHutchinson said:
I quite often go out running with nothing on me other than a Garmin watch. I almost got knocked down a few months ago and it made me realise that I would make a very hard person to identify/find next of kin for. I was thinking of getting a dog tag or similar with an ICE contact on.

(I'm sure this product already exists without Googling it, I'm just too lazy to sort it out!)
Ebay - dog tag - insert text here. Paypal £ not a great deal. Posted from China.