Dumping in Hampshire!
Dumping in Hampshire!
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albatross

Original Poster:

112 posts

186 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Not sure where to post this but...

I've been doing a spot of DIY and decided to take the old toilet and cistern to the council dump along with a bunch of other stuff. To cut a long story short they have started charging people who want to recycle rubble, soil, etc. They wanted £2.50 for each of the toilet, cistern and cistern lid!

Now I have 2 objections to this, firstly I pay quite a lot of council tax every month which I think should cover this, secondly many people will refuse to pay and instead will fly tip it, which will cost the council to clear up.

Is it just Hampshire that are so myopic or is this a national thing?

miniman

30,156 posts

292 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Wiltshire is managing its refuse costs by closing each recycling centre 2 days per week (so there's a 7 day service but you might have a 40 mile round trip - very green). Net result is as expected, an increase in fly tipping.

Reality is subsidised buses and various other services that would cause uproar if they were removed have to be paid for somehow.

Eric Mc

125,779 posts

295 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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albatross said:
Not sure where to post this but...

I've been doing a spot of DIY and decided to take the old toilet and cistern to the council dump along with a bunch of other stuff. To cut a long story short they have started charging people who want to recycle rubble, soil, etc. They wanted £2.50 for each of the toilet, cistern and cistern lid!

Now I have 2 objections to this, firstly I pay quite a lot of council tax every month which I think should cover this, secondly many people will refuse to pay and instead will fly tip it, which will cost the council to clear up.

Is it just Hampshire that are so myopic or is this a national thing?
Your council tax barely covers 1/4 of the expenditure that central government forces on local government.

davek_964

11,320 posts

205 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Last time I went to the tip I got a leaflet saying mine would start charging for building waste and soil / rubble from September (Surrery).

Think you were allowed one free bag of rubble a day or maybe a week - can't remember. It does seem a tad short sighted given the existing issues with fly tipping.

albatross

Original Poster:

112 posts

186 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Eric Mc said:
albatross said:
Not sure where to post this but...

I've been doing a spot of DIY and decided to take the old toilet and cistern to the council dump along with a bunch of other stuff. To cut a long story short they have started charging people who want to recycle rubble, soil, etc. They wanted £2.50 for each of the toilet, cistern and cistern lid!

Now I have 2 objections to this, firstly I pay quite a lot of council tax every month which I think should cover this, secondly many people will refuse to pay and instead will fly tip it, which will cost the council to clear up.

Is it just Hampshire that are so myopic or is this a national thing?
Your council tax barely covers 1/4 of the expenditure that central government forces on local government.
Thanks Eric, I did not know that. I assume that the council has to pay to clear up the fly tipping? If so I would think the cost is more than earned from the new charges. Of course I have no evidence for that wild assumption!

Jimmyarm

1,962 posts

208 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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I'm in Hampshire and read about this.

As we are about to start producing a reasonable amount of what they class as chargeable waste, i have made an area on the drive to store it and then shovel as much as I can into the wheelie bin every two weeks.

Saves me a trip to the dump.


Alucidnation

16,810 posts

200 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Yep.

Its almost cheaper to hire a skip.

https://www.hants.gov.uk/wasteandrecycling/changes...

tribbles

4,172 posts

252 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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davek_964 said:
Last time I went to the tip I got a leaflet saying mine would start charging for building waste and soil / rubble from September (Surrery).

Think you were allowed one free bag of rubble a day or maybe a week - can't remember. It does seem a tad short sighted given the existing issues with fly tipping.
It's per day.

I sent then an email asking what size of bag it was, because their website only had a 2-dimensional size mentioned on it, and you kinda need a third dimension to get the volume. I suggested that I could make a bag that was in their alloted dimensions, but 2m long...

"It's a builders bag" was their reply, and generally it means 25kg of rubble.

rfsteel

755 posts

200 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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They started charging in West Sussex this weekend too, though £4 a bag.

Though one thing I thought strange about the leaflet provided to explain about the new charges, is that then mention plasterboard on the first page, as £4 per sheet or rubble bag, but then don't list plasterboard as a chargeable item on the next page, so how does that work ?



neenaw

1,234 posts

219 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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I'm not sure about other parts of Surrey but they're charging for this in North Surrey (Spelthorne) now.

I can't believe that the council think it'll work, the area is already plagued with fly tipping and a bone-idle council who seem to be incapable of clearing it up. Charging people to dump rubbish when they've already paid a load of council tax will just make the fly tipping problem worse and piss all the local residents off!

Bristol spark

4,510 posts

213 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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No charge in South gloucestershire yet.

However they have just installed ANPR cameras and and having to register your cars with them!

I assume so they can track how often your dumping?


If your not registered, alarms go off as you drive in and you get pounced on!

Fozziebear

1,840 posts

170 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Rushcliffe (Nottinghamshire) has brought in vehicle registration and anpr at our tip, no extra charge thankfully.

ecsrobin

18,679 posts

195 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Drive to Dorset then may be the solution?

Cupramax

11,007 posts

282 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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ecsrobin said:
Drive to Dorset then may be the solution?
Dorset require paper ID with local address... Recent utility bill etc.

Cupramax

11,007 posts

282 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Bristol spark said:
No charge in South gloucestershire yet.

However they have just installed ANPR cameras and and having to register your cars with them!

I assume so they can track how often your dumping?


If your not registered, alarms go off as you drive in and you get pounced on!
Funny how they can always manage to afford them isnt it punch

silverfoxcc

8,475 posts

175 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Cupramax said:
ecsrobin said:
Drive to Dorset then may be the solution?
Dorset require paper ID with local address... Recent utility bill etc.
Hmmm......... a possible solution?

Drive down any Dorset Road and find some flytipping.

Search for a utility bill in the rubbish

Use that on the visits to the tip

OR post it on here and let everyone photocoy it



anonymous-user

84 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Jimmyarm said:
I'm in Hampshire and read about this.

As we are about to start producing a reasonable amount of what they class as chargeable waste, i have made an area on the drive to store it and then shovel as much as I can into the wheelie bin every two weeks.

Saves me a trip to the dump.
I did similar when we had a new kitchen installed.
The robbing bds waste disposal operatives at the recycling centre wanted something like £20 per appliance to be disposed of.
Luckily I had somewhere to keep the old hob, oven and extractor hood which, over a period of weeks, were then reduced to A4 size pieces courtesy of an angle grinder, and shipped out in our wheelie bin every Monday morning.
Small victories.

Saleen836

12,515 posts

239 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Wiltshire also introduced the need for a licence if you go to the tip in either a van or with a trailor over a certain size, the licence is free but you are only allowed to tip 12 times a year. As Miniman mentioned there has been an increase in fly tipping!

Huff

3,437 posts

221 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Crossflow Kid said:
Luckily I had somewhere to keep the old hob, oven and extractor hood which, over a period of weeks, were then reduced to A4 size pieces courtesy of an angle grinder, and shipped out in our wheelie bin every Monday morning.
Small victories.
A few years ago a mate [allegedly, cough] scrapped a whole Land Rover the same way... at the time he said he was curious to see how the bin lorry coped with the leaf springs biggrin

SilverSpur

20,911 posts

277 months

Sunday 2nd October 2016
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Been out walking the dog this weekend in hants/wilts border....